you came in to dispute the claim I made, ergo the topic is the Catholic Church and priests

you getting abused does not mean you get to act like an illiterate fuckwit. The two are, in fact, not connected in the slightest

Really? It looks like the generic debate channel to me, and it looks like you pretended that the CC has a particularly bad problem when it's a fact that the secular system has a worse problemk and covers up worse. Whatever, we all get it, you hate Catholics.

@MaxKolbe You're conflating two things now. One can be atheist and not be a part of a movement. Being atheist just means holding a belief god or what ever you wish to call it does not exist or merely not believing one does exist (definitions tend to vary in different circles. The precise definition doesnt matter here). Being a part of an atheistic movement means holding that belief and striving towards something with others in a collective effort.

And don't care about raped children even a little.

lol this is SJW tier shit my dude

@MetGreDKo The Atheist MOvement--not the average atheist, the capital A Atheist movement--is an anti-Christian movement and has been a while now. And supported by MSM the whole way. That's because the agenda was always to hate on religious people, not to actually help anyone.

">religion prevents degeneracy
That's why Catholic priests and Islamists keep diddling kids right?"
Religion != Degeneracy is a claim disproven by a religious institution aiding degenerates who are *part of the organization*

@Beemann SJWs hate Christians, dork. The anti-religious movement is part of SJWism.

And so @Beemann doesn't even understand basic science, and STILL cannot just ACKNOWLEDGE the facts laid out.

"because a group is opposed to me, nothing I do is ever comparable to them"
wew

Whatever, enjoy your pseudoscientific hatefest. Have a good night gents, I can see facts, logic, and basic human decency don't apply to this conversation with you. Keep the hate going! Have a good night.

the lack of self awareness is astounding

You mean the "atheists" that decided to drop one religion in favor of another?
I doubt you gonna find many of those in here, if any at all.

@tritrium No, just the ones who joined the capital-A Atheist Movement. M ost atheists are too smart to joint hat I think.

But they've had disproportional influence thanks to being propped up by MSM and other sources the last 10 years.

Hold on a second

IT's not a big deal, they're waning.

Here's something i tell religious people often, because they always bring it up:

Being an atheist doesnt make u immune to stupidty.

@tritrium Well I certainly agree with that, having been an atheist decades myself. 😉

Ive banged the drum for years against religion and creationism.

@tritrium "Religion and creationism" -- wow.

Yeah it used to be a big problem

You're right about one thing though, atheism and stupid definitely go together. Just look at all the people who still think Selfish Gene is science.

Well you know the funny thing @tritrium is that it was in part the stupid Atheist/Creationist debates--which I always hated with a passion--that made me start thinking there was something very werong with the Atheist movement I had been part of.

Because really, that much obsession is ridiculous.

@MaxKolbe I'm having trouble typing a response because you are conflating atheism with an atheistic movement saying the former is dying because one if the latters supposedly is. Upon bringing the conflating of things to your sttention you now ignore it and and purpose of my statement you now go off and ramble about something off-topic. I'm not even sure why you're @ ing me at this point.

I'm old though, I've been on t he internet since the early '90s.

Do you enjoy what SJW's are doing in the humanities on campus?

@MetGreDKo OK, let's clarify: As a rule you have your average lower-case atheist, who is just a guy who has trouble taking the spiritual seriously, has doubts, etc. Plus he's usually a male who came from a dysfunctional home. Then, there's the capital-A, Movement Atheists, whose job is to spread anti-religious propaganda for fun and profit. IT's two different things.

@tritrium No, not at all, and since they are dogmatically Capital A Atheists, it's not hard for me to see how it all fits.

Do you talk about this a lot?

Being a Militant Atheist is part of the gig if you're gonna be a serious SJW, although a few make ridiculous noises about being religious when it's obvious they're not honest.

@tritrium Yup. Feel free to join our server if you like. We've been at it three years.

https://discord.gg/ARyyQV

Wouldnt you say that much obsession is ridiculous then?

@tritrium Not really, given the experiences I've had as both an atheist and an ex-atheist, and what I've seen and documented from the virulent cult network of capital A Atheist ideologues. WHich is utterly and completely a cult movement.

@MaxKolbe for the record, your evidence of that is not 100% up to par. about the broken home part. The evidence presented in that book, besides just being a book to rag on some prominent atheist at the time and debunk a claim from Freud, is not supported that most atheists are from broken homes. The evidence that you can gain from that book, and is supported by other research, is that kids from broken homes are more likely to be atheist that those who are not. 2 times more.

TYhe captal A Atheist movement was always a SocJus project, from the beginning. They held their purge with AtheismPlus.

And this is different with creationists wanting to have their theory taught in schools as serious scientific alternatives how exactly?