Message from @Beemann
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You're misinterpreting what was said.
Apple ad was dumb
The ad is clearly meant to elicit the feeling that the problem is solvable and that they're trying to be objectice
While they had and have "must run" partisan segments
Wewlad.
Looked back to discord and thought I saw live chat. Sorry about that...
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I had scrolled back for a link, I thought you were repeating yourself, lol
The message itself was not partisan.
No, but the org is
So the message by default is?
No, the message is undermined
Just like it was when CNN tried to talk about "facts"
What's the message, then?
"The ad is clearly meant to elicit the feeling that the problem is solvable and that they're trying to be objective"
Or rather the segment
But it is an ad really. Just native advertising
Where did you get that quote?
I said it minutes ago
I don't think it's comparable to a company saying "we're the best at X" either, because that company presumably does X
This is more like saying "PETA is dedicated to rescuing abused animals and giving them better homes" when all they do is keep em around until they can euthanize
And poison people's pets
~~I mean Heaven is a better home, isn't it?~~
If PETA put out a hotline for reporting PETA's animal murder I would laugh in their faces
So, if instead of a paid actor or the CEO of the company, A nationwide chain had an advertising campaign where the franchise owners were expected to promise quality ingredients and service to the customers in [franchise region here], is that brainwashing?
is that specifically unethical?
That's explicitly an ad
Okay, so, if you've got employees, who have it in their job description that they may be required to participate in advertising functions, instead of even the franchise owner being the ones having to do it. Still an advertisement, right?
If you take out ad time on TV and are talking about something you actually do, that is different from putting an ad in your news segment while talking about the importance of objective news on your partisan network
that is an extremely difficult argument to parse, I'm afraid I'd strawman it if I even tried... So many damn qualifiers.
It's because you're trying to connect two distant things
One is an ad that is blatantly an ad, the other passes itself off as news
One is "we sell X" from a company that, more likely than not, sells X, the other is" we should be objective" from a company that is not objective
All news companies think they're objective.
Literally
You go to the restaurant and buy a burger because you've been told it's food, and it is
I don't think they do tbh
I think some employees do, but I don't think the whole org feels they're showing people all the angles
Even the partisans think that their side is objectively right and the other is objectively wrong.
You go to the komonews site, you tell them the Trump Campaign Staffer on their Must-Run said some dumb shit, and they run him again anyway with no changes to the script
How is that anything different from muh apple other than the false promise?
Oh right, CNN was blunt about it being an ad