For the third party argument I'll point to most Canadian provinces, where 2 parties fight for power and the third gets an opposition seat

2 left wing parties, generally

either way if you dont vote you dont have a right to complain about whos in office becasue you had a chance to change it with your vote

What was your % chance of putting Johnson or Stein in instead of Trump/Hillary?

slim to none but it doesnt matter beats not voting at all

@Beemann It's not about putting a thrid party in power, it's about sending a message to shift the convocation.

and not contributing to society with our most important right

https://newrepublic.com/article/146884/america-stuck-two-parties

It was none, and what did you shift the conversation to?

Who is talking about Stein or Johnson right now?

you are

i was just using as a example of how to contirbute to voting

my cousin wrote down harambe becuase he didnt like either canidates

but he still voted

That's not a vote

And nobody looks at those, they just get put in a pile

Ignored like non votes

At best you'll get some buzzfeed shit

better then sittting on your ass at home and not voting at all lol

You've failed to explain how

You've just held it as self evident

btw 30 thousand people voted that way

And it makes no difference that they did

It has almost the exact same effect as not voting

and you i have provided plenty you just dont want to hear becuase im guessing you are one of those people who doesnt vote

No, you've just said it's the only way to change things

And then when asked what you changed you backed up to "well at least I voted"

becuase who you vote for puts the changes in place

No, who gets the majority of votes does, and only if they're on the ballot

But you defended spoiled ballots, and losing votes, which don't do that

becuase you are still contributing to the voting process

What does voting for Harambe contribute?

becuase that shows you dont support either canidayes

The argument is 'You don;t have a right to complain if you don't vote'. I disagree, if you are so frustrated with politics that you can't find a single party to vote for that means that their is no one out there that you think is willing to act in your interest and you can complain about that.
Voting third party is a better way of showing your frustration than not voting as you can't be distinguished from someone that doesn't care.
You have a right to complain coz it is the parties fault for not engaging enough with the populous.

No it just shows you spoiled a ballot

no you said make a stand

Just like not voting just shows you didn't vote

Both can mean that you disapprove of the available candidates

no it shows lazyness

So does picking the first name on a list

But you defended that because it's voting