Message from @xmrsmoothx

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2018-10-29 17:37:43 UTC  

But seriously, should calls for violence be illegal?

2018-10-29 17:37:52 UTC  

There is a problem with radicalization in Islam but Nazis are just plain evil

2018-10-29 17:38:04 UTC  

more accurate would be equating nazis and, say, violent islamists

2018-10-29 17:38:15 UTC  

Yes book it's because it can incite a lot of people

2018-10-29 17:38:22 UTC  

Then how do we declare or argue for war?

2018-10-29 17:38:35 UTC  

Imagine if a Muslim leader called for violence?

2018-10-29 17:38:36 UTC  

Or rebel against tyrrany?

2018-10-29 17:38:38 UTC  

Active threats should be illegal, being an asshole shouldn't be

2018-10-29 17:39:31 UTC  

And even then there's self-defensive threats. E.g. if someone was trying to touch my girlfriend up, I'd tell them to back away or I'd defend myself and her

2018-10-29 17:39:51 UTC  

But bring an asshole doesn't guarantee a job

2018-10-29 17:40:05 UTC  

@methdragon wtf does that have to do with the topic

2018-10-29 17:40:17 UTC  

Being an asshole means people won't like you, as it should be

2018-10-29 17:40:38 UTC  

I was responding to chiper's comment

2018-10-29 17:41:01 UTC  

I agree with that but giving Nazis a platform is not good

2018-10-29 17:41:04 UTC  

Okay, but that's a separate issue.

2018-10-29 17:41:22 UTC  

Also isn't it in the TOS of the platforms who ban?

2018-10-29 17:41:30 UTC  

Nazis have the same platform rights non-Nazis have.

2018-10-29 17:41:31 UTC  

Free market determined that right?

2018-10-29 17:41:40 UTC  

this is going all over the place lol

2018-10-29 17:41:49 UTC  

If you deplatform Nazis you can't debate their points and you can't say they're wrong. It's like pretending you don't have cancer and refusing treatment

2018-10-29 17:41:55 UTC  

@methdragon you're really getting disjointed here

2018-10-29 17:41:55 UTC  

I feel yeah, what shin said.

2018-10-29 17:41:57 UTC  

If your ideology calls for violence then you shouldn't have a platforms

2018-10-29 17:42:00 UTC  

you can debate them in private

2018-10-29 17:42:07 UTC  

nobody owes nazis a platform

2018-10-29 17:42:12 UTC  

we're not talking about platforms, my dude

2018-10-29 17:42:13 UTC  

Ban Antifa?

2018-10-29 17:42:20 UTC  
2018-10-29 17:42:25 UTC  

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2018-10-29 17:42:37 UTC  

I was talking in the context of the GAB situation

2018-10-29 17:42:41 UTC  

There should be a place to talk about controversial issues and Gab fills that role, though. And yes, ban antifa, and yes, this is getting disjointed

2018-10-29 17:42:41 UTC  

can't keep up, imma go have a nap

2018-10-29 17:42:52 UTC  

be nice, stay safe yall

2018-10-29 17:42:55 UTC  

in the context of the gab situation, legality is irrelevant

2018-10-29 17:42:57 UTC  

If you don't have ANYWHERE to address the issues of Nazism, they fester and grow

2018-10-29 17:43:14 UTC  

@Vigil a good place to address the issues of nazism is the battlefield

2018-10-29 17:43:22 UTC  

they tend to respond well to weaponry

2018-10-29 17:43:23 UTC  

You can talk about why Nazism is bad but not that I identity as Nazi

2018-10-29 17:43:46 UTC  

You can have a discussion about Nazism and that should be done

2018-10-29 17:43:58 UTC  

Context matters I agree with that

2018-10-29 17:44:00 UTC  

The issue is that it's not a case of "this is a platform that supports nazis", that's more a smear. I hate nazis too, they're fucking appalling. But if we attack and oppress them they'll twist to think they're right, that there's a Jew-run far-left establishment wanting to hunt them down, and they'll get more secure in their views