Message from @Dennafen

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2018-10-31 19:41:22 UTC  

That's from when the deal was going to expire in 2009.

2018-10-31 19:41:48 UTC  

>x86
That's not the only CPU architecture

2018-10-31 19:42:24 UTC  

And it might actually fuck us in the long run to keep using it

2018-10-31 19:42:33 UTC  

Okay, but if you want a desktop, or laptop computer that's what you're getting.

2018-10-31 19:42:43 UTC  

Yes, RISC was better.

2018-10-31 19:42:49 UTC  

But it died.

2018-10-31 19:43:53 UTC  

Do you think standard oil was the only oil company?

2018-10-31 19:44:48 UTC  

See I think the main issue is that unlike a physical monopoly, in which one company can set rates due to lack of feasibility wrt competition, software monopolies are a result of regulation in the first place

2018-10-31 19:45:04 UTC  

Hell, pharmaceutical monopolies are primarily as well

2018-10-31 19:45:32 UTC  

Software monopolies are a result of regulation... what regulation?

2018-10-31 19:45:47 UTC  

Intellectual property law

2018-10-31 19:46:07 UTC  

Patten law?

2018-10-31 19:47:16 UTC  

The fact that you can own an idea (basically indefinitely) necessarily places one company "in charge" of a good chunk of their potential competition, if not all of it outright

2018-10-31 19:48:11 UTC  

Patents can only be maintained for 20 years.

2018-10-31 19:48:18 UTC  

What's worse, many times said company did not actually come up with the idea

2018-10-31 19:48:29 UTC  

Or no, 50 years?

2018-10-31 19:48:42 UTC  

There's more to IP than patents, and IP law is an ever-expanding section of the legal system

2018-10-31 19:48:53 UTC  

No 20 years.

2018-10-31 19:49:09 UTC  

No patens are pretty well settled.

2018-10-31 19:49:26 UTC  

I think you're talking about copyright law.

2018-10-31 19:49:37 UTC  

Original artwork?

2018-10-31 19:52:49 UTC  

I'm just going to assume that's what you mean, and yes it's totally fucked up. Disney fucked that up for everyone, along with a cartel of other studios and destroying the public domain.

2018-10-31 19:54:05 UTC  

Patents got extended from their original timespan as well actually, it just happened earlier

2018-10-31 19:54:30 UTC  

And patent law has continued to have changes as recently as 2013, just not all to length of the patent

2018-10-31 19:55:45 UTC  

`For applications filed on or after June 8, 1995, utility and plant patents are granted for a term which begins with the date of the grant and usually ends 20 years from the date you first applied for the patent subject to the payment of appropriate maintenance fees for a utility patent. There are no maintenance fees for plant patents . Design patents last 15 years from the date you are granted the patent. No maintenance fees are required for design patents.

Note: Patents in force on June 8, 1995 and patents issued thereafter on applications filed prior to June 8, 1995 automatically have a term that is the greater of the twenty year term discussed above or seventeen years from the patent grant.`

2018-10-31 19:57:24 UTC  

You are thinking of Trademarks (which never expire) and copyright law.

2018-10-31 19:57:48 UTC  

Software can't be patented.

2018-10-31 19:57:57 UTC  

Because it's not a thing.

2018-10-31 19:58:05 UTC  

It's a thing that does something.

2018-10-31 19:58:19 UTC  
2018-10-31 19:58:55 UTC  

No it didn't.

2018-10-31 19:59:52 UTC  

The link to posted is the patent act of 1836, so not sure where you're getting that number from.

2018-10-31 20:00:27 UTC  

Your quoted text

2018-10-31 20:00:51 UTC  

From the uspatent office?

2018-10-31 20:01:01 UTC  

Talking about the changed that happened in 1995?

2018-10-31 20:02:09 UTC  

Look the purpose of patents and copyright is to protect the person who made the thing so they can make money off of the thing.

2018-10-31 20:02:51 UTC  

If I spent hundreds of millions of dollars on development of a new drug (to use your example) want to see a return on my investment.

2018-10-31 20:03:19 UTC  

And not have a generic version I have to compete with out the gate.

2018-10-31 20:04:03 UTC  

The value they mention in the link is not the original value, which was 14 years
Further, you don't need a 20 year monopoly to turn a profit