Message from @Dennafen

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2018-10-31 19:48:53 UTC  

No 20 years.

2018-10-31 19:49:09 UTC  

No patens are pretty well settled.

2018-10-31 19:49:26 UTC  

I think you're talking about copyright law.

2018-10-31 19:49:37 UTC  

Original artwork?

2018-10-31 19:52:49 UTC  

I'm just going to assume that's what you mean, and yes it's totally fucked up. Disney fucked that up for everyone, along with a cartel of other studios and destroying the public domain.

2018-10-31 19:54:05 UTC  

Patents got extended from their original timespan as well actually, it just happened earlier

2018-10-31 19:54:30 UTC  

And patent law has continued to have changes as recently as 2013, just not all to length of the patent

2018-10-31 19:55:45 UTC  

`For applications filed on or after June 8, 1995, utility and plant patents are granted for a term which begins with the date of the grant and usually ends 20 years from the date you first applied for the patent subject to the payment of appropriate maintenance fees for a utility patent. There are no maintenance fees for plant patents . Design patents last 15 years from the date you are granted the patent. No maintenance fees are required for design patents.

Note: Patents in force on June 8, 1995 and patents issued thereafter on applications filed prior to June 8, 1995 automatically have a term that is the greater of the twenty year term discussed above or seventeen years from the patent grant.`

2018-10-31 19:57:24 UTC  

You are thinking of Trademarks (which never expire) and copyright law.

2018-10-31 19:57:48 UTC  

Software can't be patented.

2018-10-31 19:57:57 UTC  

Because it's not a thing.

2018-10-31 19:58:05 UTC  

It's a thing that does something.

2018-10-31 19:58:19 UTC  
2018-10-31 19:58:55 UTC  

No it didn't.

2018-10-31 19:59:52 UTC  

The link to posted is the patent act of 1836, so not sure where you're getting that number from.

2018-10-31 20:00:27 UTC  

Your quoted text

2018-10-31 20:00:51 UTC  

From the uspatent office?

2018-10-31 20:01:01 UTC  

Talking about the changed that happened in 1995?

2018-10-31 20:02:09 UTC  

Look the purpose of patents and copyright is to protect the person who made the thing so they can make money off of the thing.

2018-10-31 20:02:51 UTC  

If I spent hundreds of millions of dollars on development of a new drug (to use your example) want to see a return on my investment.

2018-10-31 20:03:19 UTC  

And not have a generic version I have to compete with out the gate.

2018-10-31 20:04:03 UTC  

The value they mention in the link is not the original value, which was 14 years
Further, you don't need a 20 year monopoly to turn a profit

2018-10-31 20:04:35 UTC  

Same thing for copyright, if I wright a book, and I don't want someone to just copy it and resell it down the street.

2018-10-31 20:04:55 UTC  

It depends on what the thing is.

2018-10-31 20:05:45 UTC  

20 monopoly on Viagra? Sure, 20 year monopoly on a black rectangle, probably not.

2018-10-31 20:07:16 UTC  

You need 20 years to turn a profit on boner pills?

2018-10-31 20:07:57 UTC  

No but you shouldn't get to make a profit of my design with out at least paying me a cut.

2018-10-31 20:08:10 UTC  

And if I don't want to share my toys so be it.

2018-10-31 20:08:17 UTC  

You can wait.

2018-10-31 20:08:31 UTC  

Why do you own an idea?

2018-10-31 20:08:52 UTC  

It's not an idea it's a design.

2018-10-31 20:09:04 UTC  

Which is an idea

2018-10-31 20:09:20 UTC  

Not the same thing.

2018-10-31 20:10:30 UTC  

Look if I design a new fuel injection system for a car, and I patent it, I should decided who gets to use it.

2018-10-31 20:10:54 UTC  

You decide who gets to use your product

2018-10-31 20:11:01 UTC  

Yes

2018-10-31 20:11:08 UTC  

But you getting to decide people can't reverse engineer your system is owning an idea

2018-10-31 20:11:10 UTC  

copyrights are worse than patents tbh

2018-10-31 20:11:25 UTC  

some patents make sense, although patent reform should happen

2018-10-31 20:11:28 UTC  

No, they don't need to reverse engineer it.