Message from @Cody

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2018-11-02 16:01:50 UTC  

It's like you cant just assume the baby's take on the situation when it cant consent

2018-11-02 16:01:56 UTC  

The baby already exists

2018-11-02 16:02:41 UTC  

well that is the argument isn't it. what is human life that has full rights. and we know your definition

2018-11-02 16:03:15 UTC  

which puts a vegetative person on the same level, which is fine. at least its consistent

2018-11-02 16:03:24 UTC  

although, rape is still a bit of an issue

2018-11-02 16:03:36 UTC  

Yes I'm still like :/

2018-11-02 16:03:39 UTC  

guess lack of consent on the mothers part nulls the contract

2018-11-02 16:03:43 UTC  

On it

2018-11-02 16:03:44 UTC  

Imagine you're going hang gliding.

2018-11-02 16:04:08 UTC  

therefore she can decide

2018-11-02 16:04:11 UTC  

You're cut loose and allowed to fly on your own.

2018-11-02 16:04:22 UTC  

So you're flying around

2018-11-02 16:04:25 UTC  

Like I get the argument that its life, but at the same time idk

2018-11-02 16:04:32 UTC  

Frequently

2018-11-02 16:04:40 UTC  

No, BTW.

2018-11-02 16:05:18 UTC  

Now one day, you've got a harness problem. Either you weren't prepared, or it was shit luck.

2018-11-02 16:05:24 UTC  

@Cody you could argue, if you go with your contract premise, that the mother did not make the choice of sex willingly, making the contract forced, making it null. therefore she is no responsible for the childs life.

2018-11-02 16:05:39 UTC  

but that still ends up being a position of her making the choice to kill

2018-11-02 16:05:41 UTC  

Well that much is a given

2018-11-02 16:05:42 UTC  

You still made conscious decisions that put you in that position

2018-11-02 16:05:58 UTC  

She is not required to take of it

2018-11-02 16:06:05 UTC  

There were risks involved that were ignored

2018-11-02 16:06:21 UTC  

My only concern is, is abortion still wrong :/

2018-11-02 16:06:33 UTC  

like i said, lets just dump money into science so we can just transplant developing babies.

2018-11-02 16:06:38 UTC  

Frequently.

2018-11-02 16:06:43 UTC  

whole problem avoided

2018-11-02 16:07:10 UTC  

I agree, but that's basically a contract

2018-11-02 16:07:16 UTC  

In a sense

2018-11-02 16:07:42 UTC  

Saying contract, is just an easier way to explain it

2018-11-02 16:07:49 UTC  

No, it's not

2018-11-02 16:07:52 UTC  

Atleast to me

2018-11-02 16:08:06 UTC  

A contract is a legal structure.

2018-11-02 16:08:46 UTC  

Yes, but unless your intentionally dodging my point than I dont see how you dont see it

2018-11-02 16:08:54 UTC  

I don't like referring to moral philosophical concepts in legislative terms

2018-11-02 16:09:04 UTC  

I'm not saying it's a legally binding contract

2018-11-02 16:09:08 UTC  

Because laws can be changed

2018-11-02 16:09:13 UTC  

I'm saying it similar to signing one

2018-11-02 16:09:14 UTC  

And laws can be wrong.

2018-11-02 16:09:33 UTC  

It very well may be but that's irrelevant.

2018-11-02 16:09:44 UTC  

You can address the matter in a more root way.

2018-11-02 16:10:06 UTC  

I mean I can see why you would think that, I'm just using a easier way for me to explain it