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2020-03-10 02:21:57 UTC  

meaning most people are going to want to reform it; not do away with half of it

2020-03-10 02:22:07 UTC  

That goes away when push comes to shove

2020-03-10 02:22:08 UTC  

radical reformism is the way to go

2020-03-10 02:22:19 UTC  

we dont want to remove the constitution

2020-03-10 02:22:27 UTC  

just simply reframe the goals the way they were meant to be

2020-03-10 02:22:57 UTC  

Can't reform a system that just bars you from taking part of it from the get go

2020-03-10 02:23:05 UTC  

Basically all fascist parties get banned

2020-03-10 02:23:05 UTC  

"all men are created equal' really means all men have the potential of equality of opportunity in order to allow for the truly hierarchically gifted to prevail

2020-03-10 02:23:25 UTC  

the amendments

2020-03-10 02:23:27 UTC  

Besides people would do away with the constitution in a heartbeat if they had to

2020-03-10 02:23:36 UTC  

are drawn from all sorts of inspirations aside from the current era

2020-03-10 02:23:47 UTC  

not true nationalist americans

2020-03-10 02:23:49 UTC  

If people had to actually fight to survive they wouldn't care about enlightenment values

2020-03-10 02:24:01 UTC  

Not true patriots but they don't really exist

2020-03-10 02:24:10 UTC  

parts of the enlightenment weren't liberalistic

2020-03-10 02:24:14 UTC  

there were several strains

2020-03-10 02:24:20 UTC  

I know

2020-03-10 02:24:26 UTC  

particularly hobbes

2020-03-10 02:24:36 UTC  

I'm talking about liberalism

2020-03-10 02:24:52 UTC  

liberalists just interpret the constitution in a way that fits their ends

2020-03-10 02:25:00 UTC  

People don't care about ideology that much when they need to fight to survive is my point

2020-03-10 02:25:24 UTC  

The constitution is just a piece of paper, it's only meaning is the meaning people ascribe to it

2020-03-10 02:25:36 UTC  

depends on how you look at it

2020-03-10 02:25:57 UTC  

im a strict constructionst who believes the constitution needs to be maintained for its original purposes

2020-03-10 02:26:12 UTC  

the constitution is a set of commandments rather than interchangable parts

2020-03-10 02:26:32 UTC  

But that's still irrelevant to how other people see it though

2020-03-10 02:26:46 UTC  

Your average person would choose to live over retaining constitutional values

2020-03-10 02:26:59 UTC  

that's how liberal enlightenment thinkers saw it; and it's the wrong philosophy to live by

2020-03-10 02:27:02 UTC  

that will change as time goes on

2020-03-10 02:27:10 UTC  

It's like if you put 300 people on a stranded Island, they wouldn't care about rules say if no one can enforce them

2020-03-10 02:27:28 UTC  

people will eventually see liberty for what it truly is instead of some made up idea of "I can do whatever the hell i want under the guise of freedom"

2020-03-10 02:27:35 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/542037236053442561/686762143336497325/image0.jpg

2020-03-10 02:27:38 UTC  

I doubt that

2020-03-10 02:27:40 UTC  

Heavily

2020-03-10 02:27:52 UTC  

If anything people are moving towards that

2020-03-10 02:28:02 UTC  

I dont see this at all

2020-03-10 02:28:07 UTC  

We're not gonna stop people from believing that unless there's a drastic change that takes their mind off of it

2020-03-10 02:28:10 UTC  

I see people moving away from constitutional liberalism

2020-03-10 02:28:17 UTC  

and moving more towards conservatism

2020-03-10 02:28:20 UTC  

They're moving towards progressivism

2020-03-10 02:28:24 UTC  

especially zoomers