Message from @DrYuriMom
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As the law is written currently, the US cannot draft a woman for military duty, either. Does that mean women are no longer citizens?
there is a very simple legal challenge to the selective service act thanks to obama
There is nothing in the Constitution that would preclude the drafting of anyone within our borders
could be overturned in a week or two
We could draft illegal aliens if we wanted to
#draftourdaughters
Not sure if we would want to, but nothing in the Constitution stops us
why not?
why wouldn't you want to give these women the same responsibilities as men?
Illegal aliens are under the jurisdiction of our laws. Anyone *except a foreign national on diplomatic duty and therefore given diplomatic immunity* is under our laws while they are here
That's the reason why the children of diplomats born here are not considered citizens - because they have diplomatic immunity
i would guess that their home countries with outstanding tax debts would claim differently.
As far as women and the selective service, I honestly believe we need to decide to either include women or ditch the law as it current stands. I have more thoughts on the development of "a well regulated militia" as described in the Second Amendment, but that would be a complicated debate and one I have not the time for right now.
If women want equality, they should want it in all things, that means being drafted to die in wars
We haven't drafted anyone since 1972
but they don't want that, they want men to continue to die for them
if i owe the feds 50k in back taxes and scupper off to thailand, they aren't going to say i'm no longer subject to US law because i am not physically present.
with respect to selective service, i expect that lots and lots of erstwhile feminists would suddenly feel a traditionalist twinge if they were handed draft cards
Atkins, you can be subject to the laws of multiple nations at the same time
the 'subject to the jurisdiction thereof' was a reference to indian tribes that hadn't yet been subjugated at the time of ratification.
At least three nations easily. A Japanese born in Canada visiting the US would be under three different jurisdictions at the same time
of course they would, they aren't chanting for equality in selective service
i disagree that you can be subject to the laws of multiple nations
or many of the other things that favor them
i certainly disagree that you can be expected to pay income taxes to multiple nations
If I am the example you give, if i visit Thailand I am still under US law related to things like taxes and raping a minor but if i deal drugs Thailand will still execute me.
if i am a legal pakistani immigrant to the United States and say "fuck mohammed", i am not subject to execution for blasphemy
But people ARE expected to pay income taxes to multiple nations
If as a US expatriate I live in the EU and make enough money, I pay taxes to both the US *and* the country I work in
if i'm in thailand and the US wants back taxes they can suck a dick. they ain't getting them. they do not have jurisdiction.
Actually, they do
if you ever came back to US you'd prolly have to pay your taxes
in practical terms, no.
but if you stayed out the country you'd get away with it
I almost took a job internationally and the US absolutely does claim taxes on foreign income
if you ever came back. then you would be subject to the jurisdiction of the US. the jurisdiction of the US does not extend to thailand.
Yes, actually it does. The US could have you extradited to face US law.
only if the host country has an extradition treaty. i.e., in their jurisdiction.
That is true. But you are still subject to US law. The US has been *very* clear about that.
until these people have gone through the legal process of submitting to US jurisdiction through the visa process, i submit that they are still subject to the laws of their home country. we have no legal or material responsibility to them. simply eject them.
Again, you can commit crimes in a country that are not a crime there but you are still subject to US law and the US can prosecute you for it. the current archtypical example is child rape.