Also how many businesses do you think would survive discriminating in a free association system?

Depends on where it is

We've had cases of restaurants denying service to blacks

Yes but how long ago was that?

I can't remember. Maybe three years.

And those businesses would have survived on that basis without legal intervention?

I'm just truly wondering how it will work. I'm accepting it will happen and am looking more now to prepare for it.

Oh I think they'll try to block free association as long as they can

I think local businesses will survive just fine discriminating.

But in the modern age of internet based businesses, motorized vehicles and drone delivery I think the issue is probably overblown

We're seeing it already with GLBT people. That said those gay bastards in CO were asking for a court whipping. :-(

I would also suggest that if you live in a community where everyone has decided to discriminate against you, you're probably better off leaving as it is, even if protected by law

I can imagine how the religious right would respond to christians being "run out of town". The hypocrisy on the right is not less than on the left.

Republicans are starting to get run out

And there are situations where Christians are shit on and or alienated

I'd agree that it's a pointless lose-lose situation when a lone individual tries to impose his will by attacking other people's freedom of association.

I don't buy into all the narratives, but there have been scenarios where that has happened

And that is wrong in my opinion. But I'm preparing for it to be the norm as we seek to make our IRL lives mimic our internet lives. An echo chamber.

tbh I think pulling everyone into the same space was a mistake

you can make an argument for integration humanizing people, for sure, but that's in non hostile contexts

which are basically nonexistent on twitter et al

I think Tim already talked about the right's effort to find a complex response to the left's ostracism of wrongthinkers. The right is still pretty reluctant to isolate and drive out its political opponents.

It's an own goal

the left is pulling an Atheism+ and will eventually be left with too few members to get shit done, so long as everyone keeps challenging the orthodoxy honestly

the difference here is that there's now the threat of violence and job loss, so if everyone who isnt a fucking socialist wants a counter strat, target those issues

Enforcing a cult mindset is definitely a political own goal for the left.

they dont work well as a cult tbh, that's the primary issue

>these people claim to love Star Wars
>ANH sums up the issue with their plan
<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-wntX-a3jSY>

I think the right's best response to the left's tactic of trying to deplatform and financially ruin non-leftists is for the the right to create parallel institutions from the ground up.

not feasible in all cases, and could just cause pillarization

I dont think isolating power to a singular political tribe is the solution

leads very readily to echo chambers

Um, Trump at least is ostracizing and driving out opponents. Look at his treatment of McCain, Murkowski, etc when they opposed him.

I was thinking back to Dubya era

Both sides are intolerant of deviant thinking

"not a real American"

the sides thing bugs me though

Most of the Democrats I know are waxing romantic about W

it's a tribes thing not a sides thing. America has always had this issue where tribes are forced to awkwardly make alliances

that's the most bizarre aspect yeah. Somehow the Dems became puritan neocons

"ban this sick filth" "video games r bad" "we need to intervene in another 72 countries"