Message from @Beemann

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2018-11-10 16:01:43 UTC  

I'm just truly wondering how it will work. I'm accepting it will happen and am looking more now to prepare for it.

2018-11-10 16:02:13 UTC  

Oh I think they'll try to block free association as long as they can

2018-11-10 16:02:28 UTC  

I think local businesses will survive just fine discriminating.

2018-11-10 16:02:46 UTC  

But in the modern age of internet based businesses, motorized vehicles and drone delivery I think the issue is probably overblown

2018-11-10 16:03:30 UTC  

We're seeing it already with GLBT people. That said those gay bastards in CO were asking for a court whipping. :-(

2018-11-10 16:03:34 UTC  

I would also suggest that if you live in a community where everyone has decided to discriminate against you, you're probably better off leaving as it is, even if protected by law

2018-11-10 16:05:00 UTC  

I can imagine how the religious right would respond to christians being "run out of town". The hypocrisy on the right is not less than on the left.

2018-11-10 16:05:29 UTC  

Republicans are starting to get run out

2018-11-10 16:05:45 UTC  

And there are situations where Christians are shit on and or alienated

2018-11-10 16:06:11 UTC  

I'd agree that it's a pointless lose-lose situation when a lone individual tries to impose his will by attacking other people's freedom of association.

2018-11-10 16:06:15 UTC  

I don't buy into all the narratives, but there have been scenarios where that has happened

2018-11-10 16:06:34 UTC  

And that is wrong in my opinion. But I'm preparing for it to be the norm as we seek to make our IRL lives mimic our internet lives. An echo chamber.

2018-11-10 16:07:00 UTC  

tbh I think pulling everyone into the same space was a mistake

2018-11-10 16:07:37 UTC  

you can make an argument for integration humanizing people, for sure, but that's in non hostile contexts

2018-11-10 16:07:47 UTC  

which are basically nonexistent on twitter et al

2018-11-10 16:08:54 UTC  

I think Tim already talked about the right's effort to find a complex response to the left's ostracism of wrongthinkers. The right is still pretty reluctant to isolate and drive out its political opponents.

2018-11-10 16:09:38 UTC  

It's an own goal

2018-11-10 16:10:07 UTC  

the left is pulling an Atheism+ and will eventually be left with too few members to get shit done, so long as everyone keeps challenging the orthodoxy honestly

2018-11-10 16:10:44 UTC  

the difference here is that there's now the threat of violence and job loss, so if everyone who isnt a fucking socialist wants a counter strat, target those issues

2018-11-10 16:10:59 UTC  

Enforcing a cult mindset is definitely a political own goal for the left.

2018-11-10 16:11:18 UTC  

they dont work well as a cult tbh, that's the primary issue

2018-11-10 16:12:43 UTC  

>these people claim to love Star Wars
>ANH sums up the issue with their plan
<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-wntX-a3jSY>

2018-11-10 16:13:14 UTC  

I think the right's best response to the left's tactic of trying to deplatform and financially ruin non-leftists is for the the right to create parallel institutions from the ground up.

2018-11-10 16:14:12 UTC  

not feasible in all cases, and could just cause pillarization

2018-11-10 16:14:24 UTC  

I dont think isolating power to a singular political tribe is the solution

2018-11-10 16:14:42 UTC  

leads very readily to echo chambers

2018-11-10 16:15:06 UTC  

Um, Trump at least is ostracizing and driving out opponents. Look at his treatment of McCain, Murkowski, etc when they opposed him.

2018-11-10 16:16:11 UTC  

I was thinking back to Dubya era

2018-11-10 16:16:14 UTC  

Both sides are intolerant of deviant thinking

2018-11-10 16:16:16 UTC  

"not a real American"

2018-11-10 16:16:28 UTC  

the sides thing bugs me though

2018-11-10 16:16:49 UTC  

Most of the Democrats I know are waxing romantic about W

2018-11-10 16:16:52 UTC  

it's a tribes thing not a sides thing. America has always had this issue where tribes are forced to awkwardly make alliances

2018-11-10 16:17:09 UTC  

that's the most bizarre aspect yeah. Somehow the Dems became puritan neocons

2018-11-10 16:17:40 UTC  

"ban this sick filth" "video games r bad" "we need to intervene in another 72 countries"

2018-11-10 16:18:13 UTC  

probably because Obama was Bush 2.0 and they only just caught on

2018-11-10 16:18:21 UTC  

Cognitive Dissonance is one hell of a drug

2018-11-10 16:19:04 UTC  

I think it's more fondly remembering a republican president who wasn't a bully. Reagan and the Bushes were at least civil.

2018-11-10 16:20:36 UTC  

The US media doesn't give Trump any opportunity for civility.

2018-11-10 16:20:38 UTC  

See the solution there is to view the 2016 election for what it was, which was a "fuck you" to the establishment

2018-11-10 16:21:02 UTC  

Why would people say fuck you to the establishment? Maybe there are issues that arent being addressed <:TimThink:482277772497125378>