That's the thing, status is utility

It has its uses but for what is that utility for?

Achieving larger goals

On a personal level that is

Like say you want to get rid of an unjust law

Yes of your own but thats done through trade and status you earn pursuing something normally

You need people to vote you in, which means you need respect and trust

Some people like the control it brings overall tbh

I guess as long as it corresponds with your values

I always get skeptical of those people

I wouldn't take such a relativistic notion of values tbh

No it should be all information rests on the pre supposing aside from the axioms

Of course you can contradict this and compartmentalize but look what the logical extreme is how does this poison relate to my survival or my health

It has nothing to tie it together

I recommend if you have time reading the virtue of selfishness its only 100 pages

By the way everything derives from reality in some way

@Beemann

Again, I don't think survival and health are the be all, end all. I think the loss of multiple seemingly obsolete social institutions and their impact on society is proof of that

Which is where I find myself briefly on the Peterson path before turning off onto a different trail when he starts diving into religion

Elaborate

Im not familiar

Well we're currently in an age of unbridled technological prowess

It has never been easier to do most tasks we have as part of our overall survival

Yes thanks to Aristotle

And yet we live in an age of loneliness and existential crisis. Young men are committing suicide, dropping out of society, and joining cults

Young women are reporting lower and lower levels of happiness/satisfaction overall

Thats due to altruism, nihilism, and lack of philosophy

Man needs philosophy to survive

Nihilism and altruism are products of philosophy, not a lack thereof

Nihilism is lack of philosophy id argue

It gives man no guidance

I would say militant Atheism is not a product of intellectualism but a product of idiots pretending to be intellectual

Altruism is a bit more complex but overall id argue its harmful

Nihilism is the argument that man must guide himself

No its not

@Khanclansith define militant atheism

Nihilism said man cant know shit

Nihilism is the rejection of a higher order of moral value

Which means that the only remaining moral compass is the individual

Look at the skeptics

It stripped man of reason and integration and tossed him aside