China will ally with people they won;t invite into their country

Everything I have proposed is reactive. Defensive. If they stay within their borders we ignore them.

And please bear in mind that I have personally taken part in the nation-building/occupation bullshit. It doesn't work. Complete waste of blood and treasure.

Got a plan to prevent us from hating the entire Middle East, 10th? What should the Middle East do?

If you can find a copy I recommend reading "Why we hate you" in Dabiq 15th issue

Like I said. Stop sending them money.

We could do that tomorrow. Why do you think we don't?

Because we and other nations need their oil

http://www.oswego.edu/~delancey/314_DIR/WhyWeHateYou.pdf

Occupation will not change the reasoning laid out in this article.

We could take their oil if we wanted to.

It's ***not*** an issue of poverty, or lack of opportunity, or education, or whatever other victimhood culture shit you prefer to believe.

So rebuilding and giving them aid and infrastructure doesn't change their hatred one fucking iota.

Jihadis are generally not poor or uneducated.

Education just makes jihadis more dangerous.

ISIS recruited from Europe ffs.

So nation-building is not going to change anything except waste our money and our lives.

One of the most fucked up things I've ever experienced is an Afghani woman choosing to let her son die of gangrene rather than let us treat him for free.

She would rather he die pure than be tainted by western infidels.

So again, my answer is to take the money away. Find an alternative to oil and the have no funding.

We'd give school supplies to villages, and when we left the Talban would come through and take them and burn them.

Rather than make war, just make them totally IRRELEVANT

Find an alternative to *Arab* oil, you mean.

Or Islamic oil, even.

Yes. An alternative that will keep even China and India from buying Arab oil

Make oil irrelevant

This convo reminded me of this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0bFs6ZiynSU

Economically render the middle east irrelevant

We'd guard engineers while they were building water pipes to give villages clean water, and when we were done they'd blow it up.

I get that, Atkins

Making the Middle East irrelevant is a far different proposition than making oil irrelevant.

Oh? To make them irrelevant we have to stop throwing money at them.

We could immediately start importing Russian oil instead of Saudi oil.

Oil will always be relevant.

How do we keep India and China and everyone else from buying Arab oil as long as oil is a thing?

It's not just for fuel. Plastics, fertilizer, lubricants, chemical feedstock.

Oh, for stuff like that we can get enough oil for that from non-Arab sources

it doesn't work that way. we might choose to do so, but that makes arab oil cheaper for others.

Petroleum is an input of just about everything.

@DrYuriMom Trump is trying to do that. In the current trade talks (trade war) the Item is that PRC should reduce Iranian oil imports and buy from the USA instead

I don't believe there is enough oil produced in the world to cover all the demand without the Gulf