Message from @Atkins

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2018-11-18 16:50:52 UTC  

They can't hate you when they're dead.

2018-11-18 16:51:37 UTC  

They will not ally with China or Russia. Both are smarter than us and recognize that there is no working with Islamists. China at the moment is in the process of putting their Muslim population in concentration camps ffs.

2018-11-18 16:51:56 UTC  

So you wipe out an entire population to kill the handful of haters? Because if you don't kill everyone, haters will keep developing as we bomb the Hell out of them.

2018-11-18 16:52:18 UTC  

And if they use nuclear weapons we exterminate them. Nuke them 'til they glow then shoot them in the dark.

2018-11-18 16:52:20 UTC  

China will ally with people they won;t invite into their country

2018-11-18 16:52:45 UTC  

Everything I have proposed is reactive. Defensive. If they stay within their borders we ignore them.

2018-11-18 16:53:43 UTC  

And please bear in mind that I have personally taken part in the nation-building/occupation bullshit. It doesn't work. Complete waste of blood and treasure.

2018-11-18 16:54:04 UTC  

Got a plan to prevent us from hating the entire Middle East, 10th? What should the Middle East do?

2018-11-18 16:54:47 UTC  

If you can find a copy I recommend reading "Why we hate you" in Dabiq 15th issue

2018-11-18 16:54:51 UTC  

Like I said. Stop sending them money.

2018-11-18 16:55:20 UTC  

We could do that tomorrow. Why do you think we don't?

2018-11-18 16:55:50 UTC  

Because we and other nations need their oil

2018-11-18 16:57:44 UTC  

Occupation will not change the reasoning laid out in this article.

2018-11-18 16:57:51 UTC  

We could take their oil if we wanted to.

2018-11-18 16:58:23 UTC  

It's ***not*** an issue of poverty, or lack of opportunity, or education, or whatever other victimhood culture shit you prefer to believe.

2018-11-18 16:58:50 UTC  

So rebuilding and giving them aid and infrastructure doesn't change their hatred one fucking iota.

2018-11-18 16:59:06 UTC  

Jihadis are generally not poor or uneducated.

2018-11-18 16:59:26 UTC  

Education just makes jihadis more dangerous.

2018-11-18 16:59:27 UTC  

ISIS recruited from Europe ffs.

2018-11-18 16:59:50 UTC  

So nation-building is not going to change anything except waste our money and our lives.

2018-11-18 17:00:29 UTC  

One of the most fucked up things I've ever experienced is an Afghani woman choosing to let her son die of gangrene rather than let us treat him for free.

2018-11-18 17:00:49 UTC  

She would rather he die pure than be tainted by western infidels.

2018-11-18 17:00:53 UTC  

So again, my answer is to take the money away. Find an alternative to oil and the have no funding.

2018-11-18 17:01:34 UTC  

We'd give school supplies to villages, and when we left the Talban would come through and take them and burn them.

2018-11-18 17:01:34 UTC  

Rather than make war, just make them totally IRRELEVANT

2018-11-18 17:01:36 UTC  

Find an alternative to *Arab* oil, you mean.

2018-11-18 17:01:58 UTC  

Or Islamic oil, even.

2018-11-18 17:02:00 UTC  

Yes. An alternative that will keep even China and India from buying Arab oil

2018-11-18 17:02:10 UTC  

Make oil irrelevant

2018-11-18 17:02:38 UTC  

This convo reminded me of this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0bFs6ZiynSU

2018-11-18 17:02:39 UTC  

Economically render the middle east irrelevant

2018-11-18 17:02:50 UTC  

We'd guard engineers while they were building water pipes to give villages clean water, and when we were done they'd blow it up.

2018-11-18 17:03:01 UTC  

I get that, Atkins

2018-11-18 17:03:04 UTC  

Making the Middle East irrelevant is a far different proposition than making oil irrelevant.

2018-11-18 17:03:29 UTC  

Oh? To make them irrelevant we have to stop throwing money at them.

2018-11-18 17:04:06 UTC  

We could immediately start importing Russian oil instead of Saudi oil.

2018-11-18 17:04:08 UTC  

Oil will always be relevant.

2018-11-18 17:04:43 UTC  

How do we keep India and China and everyone else from buying Arab oil as long as oil is a thing?

2018-11-18 17:04:50 UTC  

It's not just for fuel. Plastics, fertilizer, lubricants, chemical feedstock.

2018-11-18 17:05:15 UTC  

Oh, for stuff like that we can get enough oil for that from non-Arab sources