Message from @SolidHalon

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2018-11-30 12:33:22 UTC  

Just makes it easier to punish wrongdoers to regulate certain bad things

2018-11-30 12:34:27 UTC  

But I mean, when everybody dies because of salmonella I guess its okay

2018-11-30 12:34:49 UTC  

Only ones who matter are the rich

2018-11-30 12:35:44 UTC  

ya, we don't use the same language codes, sorry.

2018-11-30 12:42:29 UTC  

*hug*

2018-11-30 15:41:56 UTC  

@DrYuriMom life, liberty, and property. Undue deprivation of any of these should be investigated. Almost any valid crime is some combination of these matters.

In the case of lying about ingredients, I don't think requiring more open information stifles competition, I believe that creates a more liberal and consentual arrangement between buyer and seller. Hence why fraud is fraud.

If someone knowingly puts antifreeze in cough medicine after deaths have occurred, there's an argument to consider that murder. If the matter was not researched ahead of time, that's neglectful homicide. In cases of medicine, there should absolutely be a standard of research expected. My issue is with the protectionism Big Pharma partakes in. That drives prices and kills people, too, when groups like Bayer/Monsanto are able to directly influence the body that regulates the food and medical industries.

Further reading, your arguments seem to lean towards acknowledge of some sort of corporate form of thought crime. Even with our current protectionist model, we still have phen-phens and the like.

2018-11-30 15:43:50 UTC  

A fair and free market is not without regulation. That regulation just has to be kept light and reasonable.

2018-11-30 16:20:01 UTC  

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2018-11-30 16:26:17 UTC  

Like, let's consider other forms of competition. Let's say someone trains for a bicycle race with 180mm crank arms. Using that equipment, they're able to break previously held records for time on a particular time trial before a race.

Knowing these details, the previous record holder and champion, a clear expert and authority in the field, argues that the regulating body for the race should limit participant bicycles to 165mm crank arms. Is this fair competition?

2018-11-30 16:31:05 UTC  

I think it's not fair to limit, the idea is to break the time record, which could include improvement in technology

2018-11-30 16:32:40 UTC  

What I described isn't an enhancement in technology

2018-11-30 16:32:52 UTC  

It's a restriction on bike fitting.

2018-11-30 16:33:11 UTC  

I assumed that the previous rider used a 165 while the new one used a 180mm

2018-11-30 16:33:26 UTC  

Crank length is optimized to an individuals height

2018-11-30 16:33:27 UTC  

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

2018-11-30 16:33:41 UTC  

yes

2018-11-30 16:33:56 UTC  

but that's a detail

2018-11-30 16:34:14 UTC  

Imagine a marathon restricting shoe sizes above 12

2018-11-30 16:34:21 UTC  

HAHAHA

2018-11-30 16:34:37 UTC  

I could.

2018-11-30 16:35:09 UTC  

But true, is just dumb.

2018-11-30 16:35:10 UTC  

Imagine a job market requiring racial parity

2018-11-30 16:35:31 UTC  

We don't have to imagine it

2018-11-30 16:35:42 UTC  

I know.

2018-11-30 16:42:18 UTC  

If you don't let everyone compete, then you are not trying to find the best.

2018-11-30 16:48:42 UTC  

So, if it's found, would it require "protection"? But if protection is provided then it might come that he would not keep trying to stay the best. hmmm....

2018-11-30 16:49:33 UTC  

Rephrase that, I didn't get it.

2018-11-30 16:49:57 UTC  

Too many pronouns.

2018-11-30 16:54:23 UTC  

Rye, the problem is that my argument counter itself, at the end no protections (trade, regulations, etc) should be provided to a particular within any industry.

2018-11-30 16:55:03 UTC  

Ah.

2018-11-30 16:55:25 UTC  

I couldn't tell if you were trying to challenge the idea or agree with it.

2018-11-30 16:55:25 UTC  

or should be?

2018-11-30 16:55:39 UTC  

Yeah, sometimes I do that.

2018-11-30 16:56:07 UTC  

Perfectly valid. Means you're considering different angles.

2018-11-30 16:56:27 UTC  

In fact I had a conversation with my mother about it in regards to a coffee shop someone opened in my home town.

2018-11-30 16:56:56 UTC  

Oh, real world example.

2018-11-30 16:57:05 UTC  

Details?

2018-11-30 16:57:49 UTC  

She said that the mayor should prohibit anyone else from opening other coffe shops, I told her that's bad, that's monopoly.

2018-11-30 16:58:34 UTC  

She agreed, but that it was unfortuante that the guy had to close because there was too much competition.

2018-11-30 16:58:41 UTC  

A second coffee shop would make them both better.

2018-11-30 16:59:16 UTC  

Did he consider options to increase sales?