Message from @Beemann
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The tactics you use have to match the goal you want, ultimately. The "left" wants to get rid of most of these systems, so destructive tactics are A-OK
Once there's nothing else working, they can advocate their shitty non solutions
If you don't want idpol though, for instance, you can't then turn around and use idpol to fight it
would be a good idea to have a stratagy beyond "win against the left" so you make a good point bee
You can pressure them to hold themselves accountable to their own ruleset
I believe that everything is a series of choices, and yes that colors my opinion. I also believe in reactive policy, which is exactly that ^
But going beyond that strengthens the tactic
even my more proactive tactic is ultimately defensive when its spirit is simply "dont lose"
Right. So these idpol commies know roughly what they want, and don't sweat the details
we give them the details and hold them to their own standard
then they see what the problem is
That's been tried. It only sometimes works
not hard enough
though i think the idea of promotion of conservative voices by the masses going to potential business supporters has the potential to go beyond "dont lose" counter boycots dont
It has to be done in the right setting over a long period of time
You might also just end up with more rigid pillarization, to be fair
this is true
I just think that a "don't lose" strategy always loses
This is, FYI, why I advocate some of the things I do. Like consumers yeeting twitter
Decentralization of platforms, better information networks
For all the praise heaped on twitter for online activism and whistleblowing it's basically like searching through piles of shit for flakes of gold
well i also dont exactly fault the predictions that a lot of conservative voices have where were facing a change in the future that no matter what is done now the left will lose. but i also dont like relying on potential inevitability.
I'm not a big fan of letting the cards fall where they may in total. It works for some (limited) things
waiting for them to collapse in on themselves is great and all, I just want to push them a little
I'm a mixed tactics kinds guy really
Ignore these things, fight those things, accelerate that shit there
twitters method of activism is signal boosting basicly. while we call the part of the left that is doing most of the activism the "loud minority" they are still thousands upon thousands of people who all come together at the same time and appear to be people that corporations should listen to
Like the bans ultimately make the platforms weaker
Which is probably why they get so iffy about them
people use your service because other people use your service
ban people they came for
???
profit
honestly if you want to be an accelerationist really the left is still doing you favors, you just have to wait for them to become so unbarible and also wait for the resources globalism relys upon to dry up then you mass organize a violent government reform
Right which is why I'm not for accelerationism on all fronts
only on some
Just on fronts where I feel they're making a huge mistake
strategic fronts
but personally i dont want to wait for that because i know what things look like on the other side, its better than we have now but theres certain deficiency that suck
Allow them to continue hemorrhaging resources+fight on the fronts that are most important
er their resouces are our resources
once oil is gone for them its gone for us
their resources are also people
people will die