the reform islam movement needs to be birthed and gain traction in the western world

that way it is sympathetic to western values

and fly the banner of islam in the face of the ' old barbaric interpretation'

It is not possible!

how so?

the bible has been rewritten before

Yes, but the Bible didn't have the death penalty for apostatcy

but the new koran may get rid of that clause and since it would start under the protection of western values have a pretty strong foothold to gain traction

And then someone finds the "old scriptures" and reverts the shit back to the beginning.

because that is what has happened in the last 20-40 years in the Islamic world!
Just look at Kabul 1960s and now.

yeah i saw

and the history for that change is pretty nuts

so the only thing you can do is to convert them to Christianity...
And if you have to deport them and remove them from western civilization....

i have a friend who converted to muslim

hes currently fighting in the middle east against radical islam

Condolences....

i have hope for a new more western islam

its a rather nice idea

replace the old and busted with a new and acceptable

Um, Stefan, many a Christian through history has been killed for apostacy

I don't. Because if it happens, it won't last long and Islam will always revert back...

And there more progressive forms of Islam. I know adherants of it.

but they do need a rebranding

Yes

a new name to separate them from the radicals

@DrYuriMom how close are those tho Christians??

You mean how close is the interpretation to Christianity?

yes

i see it like Christian vs Catholics

Islam needs a christian

See, if you remove all that Conquest and savage bullshit out of the Islamic scriptures, you'll end up with a shitty copy of the Bible.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Five_Pillars_of_Islam?wprov=sfla1

you dont remove the conquest, you just adapt the message

and the end agreement

The five Pillars of Islam are fundamental tenants of the faith and have nothing to do with violence

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Now just get the 95% of the muslim world that doesn't, to practice those progressive forms of it

That will be difficult but not impossible. Indonesia is the most populous Muslim nation and for the most part is not radicalized. Turkey was pretty secular as well although lately they have a leader that is conflating religion with nationalism.

Modi is doing the same thing with Hinduidm and heaven knows we've had Presidents do the same thing with Christianity.

Converting 95 percent of over a billion people will be difficult. You have a way with the poetic understatement, Cat.

Religious absolutism can fade. We have seen it happen before. Usually economic prosperity helps.