Message from @Arch-Fiend

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2019-01-04 19:20:40 UTC  

If you were gonna try to fuck the economy overall you'd have a hard time

2019-01-04 19:20:52 UTC  

Unless you went innawoods

2019-01-04 19:20:53 UTC  

It's a sad day when Asians, who've traditionally enjoyed some of the best health, think following the Standard American Diet is a good idea.

2019-01-04 19:21:04 UTC  

maybe the future wont be so bad after all, just need to consume the right industrys and let the economy adjust

2019-01-04 19:21:35 UTC  

There might not be a better example of the broken-window fallacy than eating yourself to death to prop up the US economy.

2019-01-04 19:22:25 UTC  

its not really something that people contiously consiter but it is how the economy is built and requires of them to behave

2019-01-04 19:22:46 UTC  

many european countries as well

2019-01-04 19:24:09 UTC  

You're looking at this too top-down. People are naturally drawn to fat salt and sugar, so selling them that makes more money more reliably

2019-01-04 19:24:43 UTC  

That's true, a lot of people don't realize how intentionally the food industry is trying to kill us.

2019-01-04 19:25:18 UTC  

That's the opposite of what I just said lol

2019-01-04 19:25:44 UTC  

I was replying to Arch-Fiend.

2019-01-04 19:25:48 UTC  

Bitches just wanna have a thriving business, and if selling you corn infused candy gets them there, they'll do it

2019-01-04 19:26:13 UTC  

Ultimately you decide what to buy and how often

2019-01-04 19:29:00 UTC  

let the free market do whats best for the free market and whatever happens happens except for all the times it also lobbys various governments to de-incentivize other ways of living, creates a market place were more individualistic economies can no longer compete and ruins the environment in order to maintain its unsustainable need for growth. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

2019-01-04 19:32:05 UTC  

should ask how easy it is for someone to legally feed a family by hunting in the united states

2019-01-04 19:33:22 UTC  

It's not a free market lol

2019-01-04 19:38:10 UTC  

its just the manifestation of a market where the best at controling it gain control of it and will never let go while selling you the promise that giving them more freedom or giving them more restrictions will make the market more healthy while all it really does is secure their domination over it

what do you expect in a world where a man has little he can do but become one of a million in another man's schemes?

2019-01-04 19:38:39 UTC  

You seem really infatuated with that line

2019-01-04 19:39:07 UTC  

i came up with it on the toilet, i was proud

2019-01-04 19:40:07 UTC  

Being involved in someone's plan is ultimately meaningless. Any megalomaniac can come up with such a plan

2019-01-04 19:40:41 UTC  

hey thats what i think but the world clearly knows better

2019-01-04 19:40:54 UTC  

who am i to argue with that?

2019-01-04 19:54:36 UTC  

It's always the unhealthy stuff that seems to be subsidized.

2019-01-04 19:55:14 UTC  

I mean, where's the asparagus lobby? 😛

2019-01-04 19:55:49 UTC  

Or Big Broccoli, lol.

2019-01-04 20:44:36 UTC  

In Canada, dairy, poultry, eggs and grain are subsidized

2019-01-04 20:53:50 UTC  

and highly regulated as a monopoly

2019-01-04 21:02:03 UTC  

Of course, we hate monopolies, though.

2019-01-04 21:02:23 UTC  

When the state has a monopoly, though, we call it a social program and it's just great.

2019-01-04 21:11:18 UTC  

@Beemann define subsidized. Subsidized by the consumers dollar? All of these industries pay exhorbitant fees to the government in order to maintain market protection.

2019-01-04 21:34:55 UTC  

The meat and dairy industries greatly influence US governmental policy, from my understanding. Also, pharmaceutical companies.

2019-01-05 00:11:09 UTC  

What a joke. It shouldn't cost anyone more money to eat less crap.

2019-01-05 01:01:03 UTC  

They could just stop subsidizing the crap.

2019-01-05 01:43:05 UTC  

Supply management is an indirect subsidization scheme that heavily regulates the aforementioned products to control pricing and reduce foreign competition artificially @Joe_Limon

2019-01-05 01:54:42 UTC  

Indeed. I still think that subsidization is a misleading word for it. These industries subsidize the government with their regulatory payments. Indirect taxation. On par with the government profiting off of spectrum sales.

2019-01-05 02:04:03 UTC  

It's still ultimately an anticompetitive practice, which is the larger issue

2019-01-05 03:31:07 UTC  

https://www.campusreform.org/?ID=11702
See, don't think of this as "those nutty indoctrination centers" think of what the social justice crowd is doing: appropriating resources and funding it's advancement. They're also discussing how to advance their objectives and interests. Do those of use on the Free speech side do this? How do we push freedom of speech?

2019-01-05 08:39:26 UTC  

but it is like we need someone to rally people like SJWs do and to not make it about hate is really hard because look what they are doing ... @pratel

2019-01-05 10:06:25 UTC  

Yes, but organization is important. Ground game matters. Let's not pretend they haven't been successful. And the libertarian excuse of 'get woke go broke' hasn't yielded results in the 30 years this diversity stuff has been around. And losing more ground is losing in total.

2019-01-05 10:07:55 UTC  

There really needs to be a strategy discussion. Small things people can do to stem the tide and fight back. Hitting the problems at the from the top and from the bottom. Not just yielding turf and disengaging slowly one-by-one. There's strength in numbers and purpose in strategy, and this needs to be formulated and rallied.