Message from @Arch-Fiend

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2019-01-07 13:34:14 UTC  

No, I doubt it.
Because I expect AOC to say some appalling shit that really does not sit well with people and maybe they find some really "interesting stuff"...

2019-01-07 13:37:54 UTC  

She has no experience with politics, she makes enemys at every corner, even Pelosi and co. Has not much money either. So I expect her to fall hard, very hard.

2019-01-07 13:46:17 UTC  

She is young and it's her first appearance on the stage. She will be able to get away with all sorts of things for the next few years. Finding out that there are nudes out there is not going to hurt her. Saying something stupid is not going to hurt her. By the time 2028 comes around and she has stuck to politics she will be a well rounded fraud just like the rest of them.

2019-01-07 14:19:56 UTC  

Never ever underestimate your enemy. AOC is playing the game and getting exposure, she is not losing

2019-01-07 14:20:56 UTC  

i actually dont think things have changed as much as you might think, but what we have seen from the left and right in the united states is not something you often see at the same time. a lack of confadence in both by the center. old power structures in both sides of politics began showing their cracks relitively around the same time, the end of the line for the republicans being bush and the end for the dems was actually bill clinton however they managed to pull off obama by swallowing their pride and their plans just to maintain power for a little longer. in a state where attention is at an all time low in politics for a party, the party itself is fragmenting, and the heirarches are dying, the method for new blood to enter the race is through pure attention grabbing because theres potentially more untapped voters not even paying attention to the party at that point than there are voters within the party who are likely to side with you.

i think the dems see AOC as another obama but its actually to late for that now, she wont be elegible to be elected for a very long time and until she actually needs to be elected she has a lot of power due to her attention outside typical dem signals. her relivency by the time shes able to campaign is based purely on factors the dnc has no control over

2019-01-07 14:22:00 UTC  

they don't see her as another Obama because she isn't. not that I agree with her views at all

2019-01-07 14:22:23 UTC  

the dnc didint agree with obama's veiws either

2019-01-07 14:23:03 UTC  

DNC is never happy, like the mafia never being happy with the crumbs they get from extortion.

2019-01-07 14:25:39 UTC  

Arch, when I say things have changed I don't mean they have setteled yet. Bernie has been in politics for decades, sitting in the back room. He would be your President now if the DNC hadn't of fucked him over. By the time AOC is ready to run all the Trolling will be behind her.

2019-01-07 14:25:39 UTC  

they may not be happy but there is no way they dont see the writing on the wall. the people at the top of demicratic politics may allow pure insanity to exist within their platform but they arnt stupid, theyve puppet mastered their status quo for a very long time

2019-01-07 14:26:57 UTC  

they aren't stupid, no doubt in that

2019-01-07 14:27:09 UTC  

this is why they should be taken seriously

2019-01-07 14:27:15 UTC  

if the dnc hadent been the kind of organization to fuck sanders over then the world we live in would be a vastly different place to start with

2019-01-07 14:27:31 UTC  

and sanders goes to support them

2019-01-07 14:28:03 UTC  

pathetic, that's how you totally change someone's worldview. that's really fucked me in how I see everything in US politics

2019-01-07 14:29:55 UTC  

i think AOC has the potential to maintain relivence for a very long time unless someone steals that spotlight from her

2019-01-07 14:30:06 UTC  

i dont think its likely to fade

2019-01-07 14:30:11 UTC  

that's not up to us, it's up to media

2019-01-07 14:30:16 UTC  

i don't know about that

2019-01-07 14:30:40 UTC  

i have a feeling AOC could be dumped like a wet rag in a hurry.

2019-01-07 14:31:15 UTC  

dumped by who exactly?

2019-01-07 14:31:25 UTC  

media, dnc, public opinion

2019-01-07 14:31:45 UTC  

DNC has no problem playing war in their party, lmao.

2019-01-07 14:32:12 UTC  

she will be up for re-election before she can run for prez

2019-01-07 14:32:32 UTC  

if i remember

2019-01-07 14:34:21 UTC  

Every two years

2019-01-07 14:36:25 UTC  

it will be interesting is she keeps her position, particularly if she doesn't need to run around to keep it.

2019-01-07 14:37:20 UTC  

public opinion is the most important attention that AOC has. i think unless you have a revolution in media or a death of media, then media attention on AOC is assured. the DNC dumping her could destroy the dnc forever regardless of what retarded things she says, as long as she has the public opinion. the only thing the dnc can try to do is influince her to change her retoric and have her ruin herself by disenfranchizing her audience, but beyond that the DNC doesent have much power here, the media is doing anything it can to simply survive, they would love to not talk about trump, their obsession with trump isint purely ideological, if they had the option to talk about something better than trump, something that shown as brightly but on their side of politics youd never hear the names name mentioned again. the media is just a giant moth covered in chrome paint that goes seeking the brightest light. they shadowban small lights with a high degree of truth in them to prevent them from ever getting to big, but their survival is dependent on big lights nomatter what those lights represent and weather they like it or not they amplify the attention those lights get due to dancing around them

2019-01-07 14:37:41 UTC  

public exposure*

2019-01-07 14:38:31 UTC  

```it will be interesting is she keeps her position, particularly if she doesn't need to run around to keep it.```
Exactly!
And that might be the point where she will wither in irrelevancy...

2019-01-07 14:38:57 UTC  

Her only threat in her district is a primary. If she can survive her first reelection which will test if she can stick around beyond her "exploit" that'll tell us a lot. Her next test could be running for New York Governor or an open Senate seat if it comes up.

2019-01-07 14:39:12 UTC  

exactly

2019-01-07 14:39:30 UTC  

If she doesn't show appeal beyond her district it will be a much tougher win for her.

2019-01-07 14:39:30 UTC  

it will be interesting to see if the disengaged wake up to boot her

2019-01-07 14:39:40 UTC  

or support her

2019-01-07 14:40:06 UTC  

she needs to actually do something rather than exist i believe.

2019-01-07 14:40:25 UTC  

she is, she's playing young and radical youth archetype

2019-01-07 14:40:40 UTC  

she got to where she is by making a splash. that is not necessarily good. Some people like a splash, but not everyone.

2019-01-07 14:40:44 UTC  

There's a reason we haven't had a president with only House experience on third resume in a very long time.

2019-01-07 14:40:48 UTC  

that's enough in a horrid crypt like the DNC

2019-01-07 14:41:03 UTC  

predicting what public interest wants from her is probably the best bet for predicting her survival of relivence