>mandatory service
>not just going full Heinlein

there's value in the training and service, but forcing people to go to war is just not something I can back

I mean if you did something like bootcamp in school, it would just be bording school.

Bootcamp is a lot like a bording school really, you just learn to be a soldier.

I mean, the thing about mandatory boot camp is that it would include gun competency.

and you could classify people as part of a "well trained militia"

because they WERE trained

If you put people into Bootcamp+AIT/equivilant, it would clock in under a year depending on MOS, I am guessing most would be 'rifleman' equivilant meaning they don't have a super long AIT, you could see the entire population do it, but I would still not suport it manditorily, I think it should be a concious effort on the part of the individual.

You need to want it.

yeah, that's fair

I imagine that's why the "do this or don't vote" aspect is in play

but that seems... a bit to far?

It is too far to disenfranchize people for it

Voting is treason.

like 75% of the population is medicaly disqualified

Soy.

I was medicaly disqualified after joining for Asthma

I was medically disqualified for having a Y chromosome.

hn. that's fair

incentivation is a better route, knowing that

Service guarantees citizenship!

Most of Europe until the end of the 1990's had conscript army. Any boy 18 years old had to serve. When my father was growing up in his home country, the Mayor and head of police came by to say "Happy Birthday! Congratulations on joining the army." I do not want a conscript army. That idea of "Everyone serves or they aren't citizens" is used to shut up the privallaged CTRL-Left that hate the military.

Well if you need to serve to be a citizen you need to lessen requirements or find s omething for everyone, that as a big thing in starship troopers for instance, was they could discourage you, but they could never refuse you, they had to fidn something for you to do.

I don't know if you've seen Sargons take on Starship Troopers

It's amazing

I have

like I said, there are non-combat positions in the military.

Ahahahahahaha

Not really

In my country, males, who do not wish to do military service when drafted, gets to choose between either training/working as a firefighter or work in a kindergarten. For the time duration and salary of a military conscript.

civil service?

hmmmm...

Everyone in the military knows how to fight, non combat just means you are not on the frontlines.

there is a saying in the USAF, every airman is auxilary security forces.

that's fair.

Everyone must pass basic training, in the armed services.

Here it is three month of intensive infantry fighting, and small squad tactics. They you go on to do your specialization in whatever branch for a year.

im not actually oppose to enrollment in military for some degree of citizineship, but i think a distinction should be made between being a citizine, being a native, and being a foreigner and that the option for not being a citizine should not be too punishing. make something manditory and people will resent it.

that seems sensible

i also think that the enrollment in military is instead something more like milita training where the demands are less severe and the training is more national defense focused rather than standing army

so... national guard service for a year?