You gotta remind them they dont pay their fair share in taxes

That the rich pay majority of the taxes and that makes them the free loaders

Its the people who fund everything that should decide what happens by the logic of both of the sides in the video

sure, the DSM 4 is imperfect, however there are certain mental illnesses that we can all agree, that access to firearms would not make them are the people around them safer

And the goverment and market have this unholy marriage

e.g. paranoid schizophrenic

Well there is problems with labelling mental illness

Everyone can be diagnosed with something

definitely, but there are some mental illnesses that you don't just "squeeze" people into, they are definite, diagnoseable pathologies

Personally i think mental ill people and felona should have their gun rights taken for a few years

See how they act before allowing them a gun again

i actually dont mind wealthy people, i think taxes could go up a bit for them and the fact they tend to horde money isint good for the economy, especially by storing their money off shores. however a bigger problem in my opinion is wage vs value of labor within businesses

Since you dont need a gun to make a bomb

All humans are dangerous

And its a right to all citizens to have a gun. That includes felons and mentally ill ppl

yep, people were very successful at killing each other before the advent of guns

Tho of course repeat felons shouldnt have guns

that isn't the debate, guns generally are more effective at killing more people with less effort

Or ppl who have had violent reports with a me tal ill ess

Id say a bomb is way more

discounting a bomb of course

Banning is semi pointless

Its also easier to catch a murder with a bullet than a knife

If done right

You cant guarantee peoples safety, they need to be able to guarantee their own safety. Therefore everyone should have a gun

i dont think guns are the problem, i think the problem is high population high vulneribility centers

I think there is a middle ground there, I think all responsible citizens should bear arms. Those with violent convictions and the seriously mental ill should not be permitted to own them until they have proven themselves capable

and the problem is the erosion of meaningful public shame, erosion of the social contract

the general lack of humanity that permeates through society

I can compromise on the middle ground.

As long as people are reasonably safe and that people can die

Its like arch fiend said, other factors make murder

Focus on those

I don't think we are arguing that point at all, merely limiting access to firearms to those who are mentally and socially unfit to use them

like republicans

I think, as with any generalization, there are probably many exceptions to be found there

Its just a right in the constititution for everyone to have a fire arm. I think lifetime bans are a bit much.

when you give government the ability to restrict your freedom, they arnt going to create exceptions to permit more freedom to you

That depends. There are ways to circumvent that statement

Which is the meat and potatoes of the video

If the elected officials that comprise the government are corrupt and don't have the citizen's best interest at heart