If a murderer goes on a rampage and kills alot of ppl

theres no self defense against the death penalty

Whose responsibility should it be to handle?

Well its gotta be extremely bad

the death penalty only applys to people who dont fight the law

I think felonies are forgivable, but if you killed like 5 ppl

It should be extreme. And life in prison is what kind of life?

if you deserve to be in prison your whole life atleast the court isint killing innocent people

Well its gotta be beyond a shadow of a doubt

that doesent exist

Its why i did say extreme. I do agree with you. The death penaltynis far and few the times its used

It should exist but not be excerised

death penaltys are useless

I suppose. But i think putting someone in prison for life is also useless.

if the death penalty only applys to the most extreme cases then it only applies to the smallest minority of prisoners, thus it barely effects the cost of running prisons, thus the only net effect the death sentence has which doesent get changed to apply to more people is killing innocent people

Id have to agree with you there

putting someone in prison for life gives the innocent there entire lives to try and prove their innocence

I dont disagree with this statement

not to mention in systems where the death penalty is for the most extreme cases the process is everything but streamlined, and a nonstreamlined process is expensive. deathpenaltys in modern america actually cost more than an entire life sentence due to legal fees of the battle a person makes to prevent themselves being killed by the court

Hey just remember, there are people who are proud of what they did.

Who will smile at the camera and say they did do it

But at least if there is remorse there is redemption

the death sentence historically has been for one thing and one thing only, cost effecency. but the reason for that cost effecentcy is because they actually didint keep people jailed for long periods of time and had some punishments that would be cruel in the eye of american constitution

Ill just say that there are times in life a bullet is appropriate.

Otherwise dont kill anyone.

unfortunately the deathpenalty does more harm than good in whatever system its applied to

because humans can never actually know the truth

its a universal limitation, without omnipotence there is always innacurracy

justice exists for the innocent not for the vengeful

that must be an absolute in any system that claims to work for the betterment of people's lives

I dont believe in an eye for an eye

A murderer shouldnt get the death penalty right away

Im just saying the death penalty should exist for rare extreme cases

Like cult leaders or serial killers

if you have a death penalty innocent people will turn themselves into the court system with the understanding that it exists to protect them and then be put to death by it at the greater expense of the taxpayer no less. there is absolutely no method of designing a death penalty which does not have this result

you can only reduce its likelyhood, you cant guarentee it

Well thats on you. I dont think your going to change my mind but i dont deny what your saying

i just dont understand why you want to live in a country which a serial killer who's identity is unknown is eventually caught but it happens to be you and due to extreme police incompatence and the emotion of the people involved your put on death row while the serial killer for some reason chooses not to contenue, either because he doesent want to get caught, moves elsewhere, or dies due to some other mundain cause, in which case the police not being able to find any other evidence pointing to anyone else, not to mention being refocused just to find evidence for your case decides that instead of admiting they were wrong choose to do anything in their power (consiterible power because they will get away with it) to get you convicted and then you end up never being able to proove your innocence and you are put to death for a crime you never commited.

i only mention this in so much detail because its happened before in this EXACT way more than once

Well cause people die

im glad you care so much about your own life and the life of others for...what?

Should a person not be executed for comitting a crime?