yes, because self defense isint the court system asking you to drop all weapons, render yourself completely defenseless, allow them to put you in a box that you cannot escape from without external assistance, and then put your faith into them not killing you

So in that instance life matters less

life matters in self defense

An individual can dispense their own justice

Which im perfectly ok with

how does killing a man who is locked in a cage protect you any further from them?

Well cult leaders tend to poison the men of ppl

Terrorist leaders get broken out

the men of people?

There is plenty of examples. Especially big time drug dealers

There are men who are still a danger just by being alive.

Im fine with ppl dying. I want to save as many as i can. Just death is a part of it

You dont have to agree with me. Your standing by principles and thats good. Were not gonna agree with each other

if the death sentence is so slow in the example of the death sentence you argued you were fine with because you were consitering both extreme cases as well as giving them lots of time to defend themselves in court then they have plenty of time to be broken out of jail

not to mention you could just put them in higher security

i dont remember guantonimo bay ever having a prison break

but youve brought up terrorists so im assuming youve consitered that?

most cartels get out of jail by never getting into jail in the first place

if they do get into jail and they get out, bribery is a huge part of it

honestly the death penalty just isint effective for what you want it to do

Terrorist and cartel get traded for

And i agree its inefficient

Should be quicker

if you make it quicker more innocent people die

In extreme cases

doesent matter

Nothing you said was wrong

why do you care about vengence so much that in the face of overwelming consaquinces of what you want you still want it? its like biting into a rotten apple because you know a tiny peice hasent gone bad

Because i wouldnt be pro gun otherwise. An eyenfor an eye leaves the whole world blind, but there is a point where enough is enough.

pro gun?

guns have nothing to do with the death penalty

It is about law though

explain yourself

Ive been robbed twice already

The second time they stole the rims off my truck despite it being dark and my state having a sunset clause

I was within my right to shot at them but i didnt. I shot at the air and they left with 3 of my wheels

Its alot of responsibility to own a gun. Some people woulda shot them anyway

you can shoot people without killing them you know that right?

also lethal force is not the same thing as death penalty

No you legally have to die if you get shot

Fucking dumb dumb