Message from @Undead Mockingbird

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2019-02-06 19:22:20 UTC  

And wheter or not should put measures to guarantee survival for most

2019-02-06 19:22:28 UTC  

Prices and markets simply seek to quantify it, but they express the value that people project on those things. That is why even human life can never "exceed" any supply.

2019-02-06 19:23:39 UTC  

Human life was there to begin with. It exists as a thing we value, regardless of the monetary supply. The only thing we can ask of a price is whether it accurately reflects the relative value we place on that thing or not.

2019-02-06 19:23:39 UTC  

It has in a sense

2019-02-06 19:24:21 UTC  

How?

2019-02-06 19:24:22 UTC  

What % of the economy is entertainment? Or other non neccessities?

2019-02-06 19:24:36 UTC  

See, you are back there.

2019-02-06 19:25:15 UTC  

Entertainment will have whatever price tag corresponds to the relative value people assign to it in a free market.

2019-02-06 19:25:29 UTC  

The value judgement is not necessary. It's already included in the price tag.

2019-02-06 19:25:53 UTC  

But how many lives are dependant on it for its livelyhood?

2019-02-06 19:26:09 UTC  

I don't know.

2019-02-06 19:26:28 UTC  

All of that is expressed in the price tag.

2019-02-06 19:26:50 UTC  

If you say that something is so unimportant and that there are worthier things in the world then YOU made a judgment of value.

2019-02-06 19:27:03 UTC  

And, in a free market, that judgement, your judgement, is included in the price tag.

2019-02-06 19:27:23 UTC  

Well what im saying is we need to buy things we dont need or it all falls apart

2019-02-06 19:27:45 UTC  

If everybody thought that Britney Spears was not as good as Beethoven, the concert tickets wouldn't cost as much. People blame capitalism, but every dollar is a vote. YOU vote what you value.

2019-02-06 19:27:58 UTC  

No, we don't.

2019-02-06 19:28:11 UTC  

It doesn't care what things we buy.

2019-02-06 19:28:24 UTC  

So losing a huge source of revenue is ok?

2019-02-06 19:28:37 UTC  

Markets are built from the ground up

2019-02-06 19:28:44 UTC  

It's a source of revenue, why?

2019-02-06 19:28:48 UTC  

Ome thing fails and it takes another with it

2019-02-06 19:28:57 UTC  

Its a source of jobs

2019-02-06 19:29:05 UTC  

Because people value it. That means it's reflected in the price tag.

2019-02-06 19:29:29 UTC  

If enough people think like you and see entertainment as a bad way to spend money, its price tag would fall correspondingly.

2019-02-06 19:29:41 UTC  

You seem to see such things as some necessity to keep an economy running.

2019-02-06 19:30:24 UTC  

Things don't have inherent value or price tags. It's whatever value it has to us.

2019-02-06 19:30:49 UTC  

And economies are based on things being created that people value. The dollar bill doesn't care.

2019-02-06 19:31:07 UTC  

Right

2019-02-06 19:31:30 UTC  

The dollar bill itself doesnt fix anything

2019-02-06 19:32:15 UTC  

Of course there are things that satisfy more immediate needs, such as food.

2019-02-06 19:32:41 UTC  

If food was scarce, if there was only one sack of potatoes each month, its price, relative to entertainment, would change.

2019-02-06 19:32:47 UTC  

Then food would be expensive.

2019-02-06 19:33:31 UTC  

But food is not only essential, it is also plentiful in our parts of the world nowadays, thank god, which is why its price tag has fallen. It is still as necessary for us to survive before, but there is more of it, there is more of a supply.

2019-02-06 19:34:11 UTC  

Yea. But im frustrated with how things are going.

2019-02-06 19:34:24 UTC  

Like how things are made cheaper but more expensive

2019-02-06 19:34:24 UTC  

What is the value of a human life? Sadly, to many people it's not much. It's not capitalism that has failed - it's people. The price tag just reflects that.

2019-02-06 19:34:37 UTC  

And because there is more and more people to sell

2019-02-06 19:34:44 UTC  

The value of each individual goes down

2019-02-06 19:35:05 UTC  

Especially since ppl can sell worldwide

2019-02-06 19:35:10 UTC  

And your frustration is an expression of your value, how you spend your money.