Message from @Kibec
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Anyone want to debate metaphysics?
Praxeology is the foundation of epistemology.
A is A
Existence exists
One must perceive it possessing consciousness
A consciousness conscious of nothing is a contradiction in terms
A consciousness conscious of nothing but itself is a contradiction in terms: before it could identify itself as consciousness, it had to be conscious of something. If that which you claim to perceive does not exist, what you possess is not consciousness.
A is A. A thing is itself. Existence is Identity, Consciousness is Identification.
Rand was a red.
These laws are the the foundation of all knowledge
Praxeology is the foundation of these laws.
@halfthink How?
What is the purpose of knowledge other than action?
@halfthink Except for knowledge to exist it must exist
It must posses an identity
@Existence is identity action precedes knowledge.
It must exist first @halfthink
Yes, action must exist in order to acquire knowledge.
Thats why metaphysics comes first
Existence Identity Consciousness
In what sense does something exist if no consciousness exists to perceive it, and what is perception if not an action, a means aimed at an end?
why would anyone do something like that?
Its prolly not a religious thing but mental illness at that point or lack of self control
Btw. I have a question. Does politics affect the economy more or the other way around
And which comes first?
in the distant past economy and politics had more cohesion when those who had the position of authority within the nation were also those who owned and oversaw the largest scope of logistics in agroculture and other industrys within the nation. your kings, emperors, roman senate, pharaohs, etc.
however even without such a connection, policys that revolve around regulating businesses, especially trade businesses has a very strong effect on economy though this is not to say all regulation is bad. taxes likewise effect economy as you can imagine
systems that try to remove the power of money away from the influince of government are systems that attempt to put politics first, weather or not they succeed. systems where the legitimacy of authority is through raw exertion of power, economy often comes first. however culture is a factor here, some people have been ruled by one authority so long that its actually began coding itself into their genes, china is the most distinct example of that
I see
Yea that makes sense
I think i know where to start now
I also suddenly understood nationalism alot more
what constitutes as human? and how far human rights spread
Economics came first, as economics is the whole of human interactions in which things are traded voluntarily @My Preferred Pronoun Is Sama
@Arch-Fiend "systems where the legitimacy of authority is through raw exertion of power, economy often comes first." i'll need a citation for this. the free and voluntary trade between consenting parts is antithetical to the raw exertion of power as exertion of power is involuntary and aggressive by definition.
I mean i was thinking what it really means to put america first
Putting the interests and desires of those within the confines of the nation-state USA above the interests and desires of those abroad
Yea but that comes into conflict with the free market more and more it feels like
I used to be a libertarian but i turned and never went back a few years ago suddenly
Only if you regulate what can come in and go out
@F.Pazuzu raw exertion of power is almost always in favor of economy because commonly valued wealth can easly be translated into a better war machine. however this is only with reguard to internal politics rather than external, a wealthy but low population group is going to have a hard time overcomeing a poor high population group. though high populations throughout most of human history have often been associated with strong economys. it was only at the point where technological progress began to become asymetrical on a global scale where high populations began to fall short of their economic impact, which was really only a short blip in anthropoligic history, though its a blip we are currently in.
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