didn't the US legalize it for like a couple decades

at least in most states

It's complicated. It was basically de-facto banned everywhere and gradually expanded via the courts.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_same-sex_marriage_in_the_United_States#Early_years

It wasn't nationally legal until 2015.

Also, Prop 8 (banning gay marriage) passed *in CA* in 2008

It was mostly fought in the courts.

The mainstream culture was very against it until very, very recently.

so its been around for a couple years not a couple decades then, ok

The left is currently hunting down anyone who supported Prop 8 (see Brendan Eich)

plus even if same sex marriage gets legal in japan not many japanese people care about it politically, becaues they don't care about politics in general

That's the US too, to be honest. only ~40-60% bother to even vote.

no in the US millemials are overwhemlingly democrat

And it gets much smaller as you get more involved.

Yes? So?

"In the most recent election for the House of Representatives (the lower house of the National Diet) in 2014, for example, 68% of citizens in their sixties went to the polls, but only 32% of those in their twenties turned out. This combination of factors has led some people to complain that Japan has a “silver democracy”—a system in which silver-haired seniors hold the upper hand and young people’s wills tend to be neglected."

https://www.nippon.com/en/currents/d00231/teen-voters-and-politics-in-japan.html

so, since japanese people, especially the younger generation, are much less political than millenials in the US its much harder to push any political agenda in japan since the younger people are too busy fapping to hentai than listening to politics

30% turnout rate for millenials at the polls that's pretty damn low

Yeah, I was going to say.
http://www.electproject.org/home/voter-turnout/demographics

and, its dwindling too "In fact, though, the newly enfranchised 18- and 19-year old voters make up a mere 2% of the total electorate. And it is fair to say that their participation had no significant effect on the results of the July 2016 election for the House of Councillors (the upper house of the Diet), the first nationwide election following the lowering of the voting age. The cynical voices of young people who said, “Even if I vote, it won’t make any difference,” turned out to have been accurate."

Things aren't as different as you might assume.

18-19 year olds make up like 1-2% of the electorate, just goes to show how much japanese kids are interested in politics

Oh wait, we were thinking of different countries.

I'm pretty sure that's our numbers too.

Though voter turnout increases in years divisible by 4.

you jsut showed me a site that milenials in the US are actually voting unlike japan

plus a lot more of them will turn out after the Trump presidency so we can both agree that the US numbers are going to go up come 2020

18-19 isn't millenials in the US. That's Gen Z.

sure but they are still voting

I mean, it's in line in mid-term years. That was my point.

sure they vote less in the midterms, how does that relate to young people not voting in japan

the japanese younger generation barely even votes in the presidential elections

I'm trying to say that young people don't vote at the rates of the older generations in the US and as such it's like Japan.

You're trying to argue Japan and the US are extremely different. I'm arguing they're more similar than you realize.

culture wise yes we are extremely different

i never said that older people vote less in the US either

plus we see a lot of milenial activism in the US, where we barely have any protests or activism especially involving young people in japan, that;s a huge huge difference

Fair. I gotta go.

@pratel sorry I fell asleep. I have no objections, and no need to anonymize me.

buisness culture in japan vs us is very different i'd say

and the way they treat people is very different as well

america is usually known for helping the poor, homeless what have you

since we're founded on judeo-christian values

homeless people in japan don't beg or put up signs asking for money and they dont even expect anyone to help them