Message from @pratel
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I blame the whole intersectionality thing for most of it, but there's other factors driving it too.
That was how it was in most places in the US until a couple years ago.
so since there is no such thing as "gender bias" training in japan there isn't even anywhere to start
I still remember how people on Reddit used to make fun of the whole concept and you couldn't find *anyone* pushing the "gender is a social construct" line.
in the US feminism and LGBT has been a issue from a long time ago before trump even announced his presidency
Now the "gender is a social construct" seems to be the dominant narrative.
they always existed, just not that vocal before the trump presidency
Don't forget. Obama campaigned *twice* on not supporting Gay Marriage.
yeah that's the US, nobody is even talking about gay marriange in japan for the most part
Bear in mind, Obergefell vs. Hodges (the turning point in the US) was also in 2015.
Read that Reddit thread and just ask around if anyone you know has heard of similar things. That's what to watch for.
do you know that gay marrriage isnt even legal in japan
homosexuality isn't illegal but same sex marriage isn't legal either
That's how it was in the US until the last decade or so.
Outside of a (very) limited selection of places.
didn't the US legalize it for like a couple decades
at least in most states
It's complicated. It was basically de-facto banned everywhere and gradually expanded via the courts.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_same-sex_marriage_in_the_United_States#Early_years
It wasn't nationally legal until 2015.
Also, Prop 8 (banning gay marriage) passed *in CA* in 2008
The mainstream culture was very against it until very, very recently.
so its been around for a couple years not a couple decades then, ok
The left is currently hunting down anyone who supported Prop 8 (see Brendan Eich)
plus even if same sex marriage gets legal in japan not many japanese people care about it politically, becaues they don't care about politics in general
That's the US too, to be honest. only ~40-60% bother to even vote.
no in the US millemials are overwhemlingly democrat
And it gets much smaller as you get more involved.
Yes? So?
"In the most recent election for the House of Representatives (the lower house of the National Diet) in 2014, for example, 68% of citizens in their sixties went to the polls, but only 32% of those in their twenties turned out. This combination of factors has led some people to complain that Japan has a “silver democracy”—a system in which silver-haired seniors hold the upper hand and young people’s wills tend to be neglected."
https://www.nippon.com/en/currents/d00231/teen-voters-and-politics-in-japan.html
so, since japanese people, especially the younger generation, are much less political than millenials in the US its much harder to push any political agenda in japan since the younger people are too busy fapping to hentai than listening to politics
30% turnout rate for millenials at the polls that's pretty damn low
Yeah, I was going to say.
http://www.electproject.org/home/voter-turnout/demographics
and, its dwindling too "In fact, though, the newly enfranchised 18- and 19-year old voters make up a mere 2% of the total electorate. And it is fair to say that their participation had no significant effect on the results of the July 2016 election for the House of Councillors (the upper house of the Diet), the first nationwide election following the lowering of the voting age. The cynical voices of young people who said, “Even if I vote, it won’t make any difference,” turned out to have been accurate."
Things aren't as different as you might assume.
18-19 year olds make up like 1-2% of the electorate, just goes to show how much japanese kids are interested in politics
Oh wait, we were thinking of different countries.
I'm pretty sure that's our numbers too.
Though voter turnout increases in years divisible by 4.
you jsut showed me a site that milenials in the US are actually voting unlike japan
plus a lot more of them will turn out after the Trump presidency so we can both agree that the US numbers are going to go up come 2020