Message from @cmdline
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We don't think that is rape
no.
the issue is the wording depends on whether or not you think drunk people can consent
give me a person who thinks drunk people can't consent
And who has published anything in this field
Like 1 single person
well, there are people that think its rape when the woman changes her mind a week after... 😒
And i doubt those people have published anything.
@cmdline can't find anyone credible but it's about the opinion of the people taking the survey not the most credible answer
I suppose that much is true. That said, the question clearly states "unable to provide consent or stop what was happening
because you were... drunk"
If someone interprets that as "I took 1 shot, I was raped!" then sure, but i see no evidence that that is a significant issue.
No reasonable person is going to look back at pleasant sexual experience while intoxicated and report it as rape because they were intoxicated
uhhhhhhhhhh
matress girl?
@cmdline but those people might have an impact on the survey results if they were part of the interviewed (that is my problem with survey based studies in general, btw.)
survey based studies are fine
But what % of the population consists of people like mattress girl
you just have to compensate for selection bias as much as possible
The major problem with this study is it was voluntary response. People went online and answered because they wanted to, not because the survey was palced in front of them. They had to be motivated to take it.
i'd say more than 5% of the population are batshit insane enough to roll with a lie like that if they had social incentive
So say 5% of respondents did that (i don't think so but w.e)
That sifts the numbert marginally
5? try 50%, people are as self serving as they come
yeah but it diddnt even work out that well for her
@cmdline well... voluntary response disqualifies the study completely.
not really
you have to concider how many people see the study
if it's not random selection it has no value to me
definitely more effective
@I AM ERROR, I feel like you don't do a lot of social sciences research
i don't
*social* *science*
skeptic hat tilts forward
Then you should probably refrain from laying down the law on this stuff.
hey that's pretty condecending
Oh please, it's got its problems but the socials ciences have been producing meaningful work for almost 100 years
nope. you don't have to work in a field to see flaws in the methods used in it
And " well... voluntary response disqualifies the study completely. if it's not random selection it has no value to me" is a pretty absurd thing to say
100 wolves interviewed said that sheep are tasty 😉