Message from @Somi

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2018-01-25 16:38:35 UTC  

lets hope so

2018-01-25 17:18:11 UTC  

The Doomsday clock ticked to two minutes to midnight, again. https://thebulletin.org/sites/default/files/2018%20Doomsday%20Clock%20Statement.pdf

2018-01-25 17:21:19 UTC  

'The doomsday clock' is one of the most absurd things I've ever seen

2018-01-25 17:29:52 UTC  

At best just a guesstimate made by a bunch of socialologists and political science. No one can say for sure what "one minute" means, this is the very defination of a measure being vague and subjective.

2018-01-25 17:36:51 UTC  

From reading the article most of their concerns are with nuclear war with North Korea, not as much as it was in 1953 with an actual "Doomsday" scenario. I don't think a conflict with NK will lead to a new world war or a "Doomsday", but will be catastrophic for the region. They also talk about the failures of demorascies to disinformation and misuse of information ..

2018-01-25 17:37:58 UTC  

I don't really care about the clock itself, i more like to read their reasoning behind it.. To agree or disagree with..

2018-01-25 17:41:13 UTC  

The suggestion that humanity is 'two minutes from midnight' when it comes to life as we know it is patently absurd and clearly a statement by people who's -job- it is to be as alarmist as possible.

2018-01-25 17:42:26 UTC  

Drop the alarmist rethoric basically, reason behind it is interesting and all.

2018-01-25 17:42:40 UTC  

But surely we were alot closer to nuke outs back then than now.

2018-01-25 17:42:58 UTC  

Closer to nukes being thrown, yes.

2018-01-25 17:43:18 UTC  

Closer to world-as-we-know-it ending full-arsenal nuclear exchanges?

2018-01-25 17:43:26 UTC  

We couldn't be -further- from such a thing.

2018-01-25 17:43:48 UTC  

the one good thing about globalism is that it's made war between US/NATO, Russia and China simply a concept of the past.

2018-01-25 17:44:06 UTC  

I mean, I doubt a nuke war would start off with the first salvo being the entire salvo

2018-01-25 17:44:30 UTC  

The economies are too intertwined with one-another to allow any kind of actual warfare to happen between the major power holders in the world.

2018-01-25 17:44:37 UTC  

We where closer to all out nuclear war back in the 1950s, but we still have the threat of "local" nuclear war between two or a few nations.

2018-01-25 17:45:39 UTC  

There are alot of nukes out there..

2018-01-25 17:46:24 UTC  

Do they take into account that? Or is it assumed that at "midnight" we get a full out total annihilation.

2018-01-25 17:46:58 UTC  

That's what your average person would consider the term 'doomsday' to mean

2018-01-25 17:47:02 UTC  

The end of life as we know it

2018-01-25 17:47:11 UTC  

Armageddon, the apocalypse, etc.

2018-01-25 17:47:12 UTC  

Well, maybe not for "us".

2018-01-25 17:47:26 UTC  

THen again, life changed when we realised how powerful nukes were

2018-01-25 17:50:54 UTC  

I think life would change again if a modern 15 megaton warhead detonated over a city, considering that Hiroshima was 15 kilotons.. a firecracker in comparison...

2018-01-25 17:50:55 UTC  

*real shit?*

2018-01-25 17:51:39 UTC  

huh..

2018-01-25 17:55:53 UTC  

i wonder what caused it?

2018-01-25 17:56:06 UTC  

Perhaps

2018-01-25 17:56:18 UTC  

rises like this are usually due to news or happenings of this sort

2018-01-25 17:57:56 UTC  

I believe the news blamed the Dollar drop on the China solar cell forced taxation into the US, haven't looked into it much..

2018-01-25 17:58:50 UTC  

So US taxing china on solar cells or something else?

2018-01-25 18:02:09 UTC  

More like tariffs on solar panel import from china to protect US solar panel manufactures, is what i got from a quick googling..

2018-01-25 18:02:55 UTC  

THing is, its only one aspect of the Chinese economy

2018-01-25 18:03:03 UTC  

There must be tarrifs on other products

2018-01-25 18:03:21 UTC  

The USA is currenly building alot of solar panels in the nevada desert i think

2018-01-25 18:03:24 UTC  

miles of them

2018-01-25 18:03:32 UTC  

China is just doing good buisness

2018-01-25 18:03:35 UTC  

lol