Message from @Ghostler
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what is the difference between authoritarian government and criminal organizations?
In a lot of cases, they do know who these gang members are.
Because they've been in and out of the system so many times.
Certainly
the criminal organizations have less human rights violations
but if they served their times, in all fairness, they should have a chance
Except it's just not that simple with the US court system.
I was actually somewhat OK with clinton's three strikes as far as it went to violent crime
the drug crime I am totally against
they should have a chance. too often are they in and out of the system all the time because the system more less works to keep them in there
yeah; I am aware
I'm just not going to draw a black line because 80% of offenders offend again
GROSSLY OFFENSIVE
The three strikes laws did sometimes result in “bad outcomes”, such as where the 3rd conviction was for some minor crime. That said, in some circumstances today it swings the other way. In some jurisdictions (your sanctuary city regions) you have prosecutors that are intentionally undercharging on some serious/violent crimes because if the perp’s crime is more serious than x/results in jail time longer than 365 days, then it constitutes a felony which means (illegal alien) perp will be eligible for deportation. So people who did commit a serious crime are being undercharged to keep them off ICE’s radar.
There is a reason they are eligible for deportation
Ffs
"let's prove illegals are good people by not getting rid of the murders"
Yeah, which is something I often see certain leftists overlooking when they go on about "look at all of the people in jail just over drug charges, it's ridiculous!" While I agree in cases where that's really what was going on, often these people have committed more serious crimes, but plea bargained down to drug charges for the sake of revealing information or speed. How many of these 'people in jail over drug charges' were the result of plea bargains?
Well, technically anyone here illegally is eligible for deportation but ICE generally prioritizes those who have committed felonies, and leftist politicians also call for deportation of only the most violent criminal illegals.
It's the wage gap of criminal prosecution statistics.
Yeah; 3 strikes definitely had problems
Yeah.
I can’t County how many times I have read about illegals who were responsible for DUI hit and runs, often which result in severe injury or death to their victims.
Is a DUI hit and run considered a “violent crime” in the eyes of those who say only the most violent offenders should be deported?
Exactly.
Can we deport legal citizens too? Let's make a new Australia from our criminals
Hawaii would be a good place to send them
Maybe if a large enough earthquake hit we could go all escape from LA
There are plenty of islands we can use for Battle Royale arenas...
Yeah but Hawaii is nice. Australia was like the Midwest only an island
In all seriousness, I think the only citizens that could possibly be deported were naturalized citizens who lied on their applications.
Nothing there
And that deportation would only be after their citizenship was stripped through legal action
Also everyone that was born a 'citizen' here to two illegal parents. I think in order to be a citizen at least *one* of your parents needs to be a citizen.
If a large part of California breaks off in an earthquake, I would vote for it to be a prison colony. Hell, id vote for Trump's wall to put Cali on the Mexico side and just send all criminals there. Cut Cali from fed funding and give them all the criminals that they love so mucb
"You guys want to be a sanctuary state? Alright then... be a sanctuary...."
But then we’d lose Hollywood!!!!!!
Oh noes.
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LOL