As true as that is, you're thinking about Step 7, where Step 2 is of immediate concern. If we can't resolve even Step 2, then it will be useless to worry about how it might affect Step 7.

Which I think is to the benefit of the alt right, since often the conversation leads to "but if you do this, it'll lead to violence." I think the alt right's mistake is them getting hung up on thinking of ways or trying to assure us, "oh no guys, it doesn't have to be violent, really." When really, what they should be saying is, "Yeah, it will, but if things keep going the way they are it'll lead to violence anyway.", making the point a moot one.

@Aktriaz If we need tyranny and violence to save oursleves I think that is better than beeing whiped out.

At the very least they'll then be owning up to it.

I don't want to go that far but if it means our survival I think we should.

This isn't me picking a side, btw, I just think we're well beyond that point of no return when it comes to avoiding violence.

At least in Europe.

The left has been acting authoritarian for the last 50 years and we may have to act the same way to fix this problem.

@JadenFrostwolf "As true as that is, you're thinking about Step 7, where Step 2 is of immediate concern. If we can't resolve even Step 2, then it will be useless to worry about how it might affect Step 7."

Really weak argument. Since when did looking at how your decisions impact the future become unwise?
*If you want to go that route,* then making the wrong choice at Step 2 could make the right choice at Step 7 undoable.

This is a pointless argument.

I think Americans should keep an eye on California. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=il4CwUm0pKY

I'm not saying it's unwise, I'm just saying we shouldn't be focusing on Step 7 at the expense of Step 2.

Commifornia is already lost. It is Americas Sweden

Besides, I think it's possible to undo a tyrannical government should one arise, as we've seen it countless times already.
Undoing extinction? Not so much.

Agreed, the tyrannical forces of the culture of the west since post ww2. They knew that if they did not remove the west, the west would stand against them.

The west has survived so much.
>the fall of the Roman empire
>the Dark ages
>several invasions by the Muslim world and occupation of servral countries like Greece, spain, Portugal, Bulgaria, ect
>several plagues including the black plague which whipped out 1/3 of Europe's population
>several religious wars which truned Europe against it's self
>two world wars which killed millions of the best men and women of the west
>eastern Europe after a half century of Communist occupation
The west survived all of this becase it composed of whites not some foreign peoples.

there are a lot of locals

that hate what's happening

No great civilization is destroyed from without until it has destroyed itself from within.

I think CA should be split into 3

That is what is happening to the west.

"We will be the authors of our own destruction" and all that.

The idea that if we replace the people of the west with other peoples it will survive is ridiculous. Take for exsample the European empires who once controled most of the world and forced their cultures and languages all over their empires but did western culture spread to the peoples of these lands survive? No that is becasue culture is downstream from biology and since politics is downstream from culture the peoples of those countires after the Europeans left then went back to there own cultures. The only former areas of these empire that stayed western were the ones that were populated with majorty white peopulations like America.

I fear that if things do not change we will see the Balkanization of the west due to mass immigration.

If present trends continue it will be inevitable. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4652002/Native-Germans-minority-Germany.html

The Germans are alread a minority in Frankfurt, The British a minority in London what do you think will happen?

What always happens the natives will have there cultures replaced and be made second class citizens.

Multicultural societies never function.

We don't even control our societies while were in the majorty. so how will we beable to control our countires while in the minorty if we don't create an apartheid system?

The average person has been to blinded by mass media to see the coming problems.

I have no idea what to do anymore. The dankula case and the child grooming gangs operating for years has made me truly afraid for the future.

The thing is the center can't do anything becase it isn't addressing the problems.

exactly they need to wake up and see the coming train wreck the western governments are making.

It's mustly just reacting with shock and trying to be liberal while not understanding that if you don't have a white society you can't have a liberal society so they are doomed to fail.

Unfortunately I do not see a liberal solution to the west present problem.

We have allowed the problems to grow too big to be easily fixed.

Agreed we need to adree the underlying racial problems to the west. Take guncontrol for exsample they want to take guns away from people becase some non-whites have commited gang violence and mass shootings. I''l post some stuff in shitposting to prove what I'v said.

ok

honestly, hard leftists want to take away the guns because whites shot up X Y and Z

they always hope

I see it all over

Race doesn't usually come into my picture, although I'll admit that religion and culture do.