Message from @LotheronPrime

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2018-04-29 18:57:44 UTC  

I said allow you to buy pass the existing laws in other states.

2018-04-29 18:57:57 UTC  

people that commit crimes with guns will do so because they're already breaking the law. They wont have a license, they still will have a gun, and they still will commit crimes

2018-04-29 18:58:07 UTC  

must I point out crime in NY vs London this year

2018-04-29 18:58:10 UTC  

Because cry unconditional all you want, you'll still end up in jail if caught as it is.

2018-04-29 18:58:27 UTC  

Depending on the state

2018-04-29 18:58:49 UTC  

Only Hawaii and the District of Columbia require the registration of all firearms.

2018-04-29 18:59:11 UTC  

The state of New York requires the registration of handguns.

2018-04-29 18:59:13 UTC  

People who will commit crime already do NOT follow law.. why make more laws they wont follow just to make it hard on the rest of the law abiding public

2018-04-29 18:59:27 UTC  

Like I said, I don't believe in all or nothing. Not only does it not make you any better that the other side, being unwilling to compromise, it also doesn't get you any closer to your goal unless you get an overwhelming majority.

2018-04-29 18:59:39 UTC  

California and Maryland require new residents to report their firearms.

2018-04-29 18:59:48 UTC  

The "other side"'s goal is complete disarmament of the populace

2018-04-29 18:59:53 UTC  

no thanks

2018-04-29 18:59:56 UTC  

they get nothing

2018-04-29 19:00:26 UTC  

Good for you. You get no where.

2018-04-29 19:00:32 UTC  

I don't need to get anywhere

2018-04-29 19:00:35 UTC  

I have the right to bear arms

2018-04-29 19:00:39 UTC  

no one can say different.

2018-04-29 19:00:47 UTC  

Unless the constitution is changed, which wont be

2018-04-29 19:00:57 UTC  

this really is a pointless argument. for all.

2018-04-29 19:01:28 UTC  

Fine, let the other side win

2018-04-29 19:01:29 UTC  

"shall not be infringed"

2018-04-29 19:01:34 UTC  

the other side will not win

2018-04-29 19:01:52 UTC  

California, Connecticut, Hawaii, Maryland, New Jersey, and a New York all I have some kind of registration required for so-called "assault weapons" and/or "assault pistols" and/or 50 caliber or larger weapons and/or high-capacity magazines.

2018-04-29 19:01:53 UTC  

They will if they get enough people.

2018-04-29 19:02:15 UTC  

meh, it'll never happen

2018-04-29 19:02:19 UTC  

Hell, they are starting to get private businesses on their side

2018-04-29 19:03:01 UTC  

I don't live in any of the aforementioned States, nor the District of Columbia, nor do I have any intention of ever living in any of those States or the District of Columbia.

2018-04-29 19:04:02 UTC  

why should anyone have to comprise on their rights? I mean, what's the point? How will me compromising on my rights stop crazy people from doing crazy things?

2018-04-29 19:04:55 UTC  

You see, there becomes a problem when you refuse to compromise even a little to shift the existing stuff in your favor. There already is gun control laws. There is a federal ban on actually assault rifles, which is to say fully automatic ones. So say what you want about it never happening. I say it already has happened and could get worse if you try and win people over.

2018-04-29 19:05:12 UTC  

In fact, the only States on that list I have ever even been to are Maryland and California. I will have to travel through California, maybe, when I move back where I'm going to move back to, but I don't think transporting my weapons through the state will have any kind of registration requirements. And frankly, I'll probably go the more Northern route, so I don't have to go through California. But that depends on the time of year, as well.

2018-04-29 19:05:36 UTC  

that doesn't make any of those constitutional in the intent of the founding fathers of the 2A

2018-04-29 19:06:07 UTC  

regardless of the fact that they exist

2018-04-29 19:06:19 UTC  

The fact they exist is why I say you lost

2018-04-29 19:06:35 UTC  

Actually, there is no federal ban on assault rifles. The sale and transfer of them is strictly regulated, but you can buy them. You can't buy a new one anymore, not since 1987? 1986? I forget, but anyway, you can still buy used ones, but doing so is strictly regulated. Not banned.

2018-04-29 19:06:39 UTC  

Because if they are unconstitutional, how are they still on the books, and being enforced

2018-04-29 19:06:45 UTC  

yup

2018-04-29 19:07:06 UTC  

because they have to be challenged in the courts to be unconstitutional

2018-04-29 19:07:09 UTC  

Well, in order for a law to be judged unconstitutional, it has to be fought in court and make it to the Supreme Court.

2018-04-29 19:07:19 UTC  

They have been, and they usually don't win

2018-04-29 19:07:43 UTC  

Otherwise they wouldn't still be on the books.