https://www.naturalnews.com/2017-10-05-every-mass-shooting-over-last-20-years-has-one-thing-in-common-and-it-isnt-guns.html

Zoloft, Paxil, Ritalin

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@LotheronPrime exactly. 204 years of Civilian ownership of firearms with very rare incidents of mass shootings by civilians outside of gang violence during prohibition. So why did we go for over 200 years with exceptionally rare instances of mass shootings by civilians, and then all of a sudden the rate increased to 1 every 300 days in the 1980's, and then after 2012, why did that rate triple to one every 80 Days?

Boy, you guys really stop listening the moment you label it "gun control". How progressive of you.

I don't think that the compromise is necessary. At all.

And I do apologize, Grenade, but I was talking with someone besides you as well as with you. To say that I stopped listening, however, would be incorrect.

If I thought "gun control" would change anything, sure, I'd look at it

but its futile

its not ht eproblem

again, London murders are higher than NY

and they have gun control

so obviously that's not it

The challenge is violence. And the solution to that challenge is to address the causes. The causes are socioeconomic. And I'm including mental health and psychiatric drugs under the category of socio-economic.

But what compromise would YOU be making? I already said let's tweak, or add a provision, that made it optional. Which would mean it would make it something I could sign up, that would make it easier for me to get a gun, and other gin owners, but wouldn't make you have to sign up for it. The only "comprise" would be supporting it to help people who like guns that still live in states with "unconstitutional" laws.

It would be an easier fight, and consolidate all the stuff you usually fight for into one law.

I will say that there has been no establishment of a causal relationship between psychiatric drugs and Firearm violence. There has, however, been a positive correlation noticed. A positive correlation is not necessarily a causal relationship.

It could be explained also by those people having gone off their meds.

Just like a positive correlation between obesity and tv. But it ain't the tv.

We simply don't have sufficient data yet to draw any real conclusions.

And yet not ones looking at it because the drug industry

Well, some of us are looking at it, but I suppose you mean people in government.

yup

or the activists that think that taking away guns is going to solve all the worlds problems

Yes, again, Citizens United versus the Federal Election Commission. Very bad decision by the Supreme Court. Need a constitutional amendment to overturn that.

Those activists need an education. Most of them don't even know what the fuck they're talkin about half the time they start talking. I mean, what the fuck is "fully semi-automatic"? And that's just one example of many.

30 caliber magazine clip

but those activists are the ones that make the news because they fit the narrative

I wouldn't mind having an AK-47 just for collection purposes. But if I got one, I would insist on it having a 30 round banana "clip" painted red. For authenticity's sake.

Well, the mainstream media is always going to go for the sensationalistic, especially if it fits the narrative they are trying to promote.

yup and with critical thinking a rarity

Well, you know critical thinking hasn't been promoted in school for a long time

It's always "here is what you need to memorize" and not "here is how you find truth in the world"

Yes, one of the things I think is absolutely necessary is that logic should be a required course for high school graduation. I mean what is now university-level logic. A full year. I mean two semesters of course, but yeah. I have said this for over a decade. And as someone with a degree in philosophy, with a focus in logic and the history of ideas, I know what I'm talking about. Logic would help the voter see through the bullshit rhetoric of political candidates, among other benefits.

Anyway, guys, nice chat, but I need to go put this phone on the charger. Live long and prosper. 🖖

University level logic? I hope you mean a level higher than today's University level logic. Because I think some high schooler are better than that now a days.

University is just daycare for overgrown children from helicopter parents with some poor souls who thought they would get a job with all this debt having been lied to that there are no trade jobs out there, despite some of those "dirty trade jobs" paying better than half of the undergrad degrees

I was an undergrad in the 1980s. We didn't have safe spaces and Trigger warnings and shit like that.

And I kind of doubt that logic classes have been dumbed down to pacify the crybullies.

It's logic, after all, not gender studies.

I just recently purchased my first rifle.