Message from @Billcat
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the state has to depend on the federal government
that's how the federal government know it won't secede
If a state ever said nah
we dont need that block grant
we're good
the federal government is immediately on lockdown "holy shit this state is actually wanting to be independent"
The concept keeping our union together is that the federal government provides the external defense while the states manage their internal affairs, it's the best of both worlds. A state would have no desire to succeed simply because they have the ability to freely manage internal affairs as they still don't have the ability to provide adequate external defense
Actually
My issue is when that federal government decides "We're going to both provide this external defense and also have extensive internal affair management as well."
A state would have a desire to secede if they realize they can be financially independent.
That's how the Civil War even started
hoping that the southern states thought they were independent enough to secede from the union
that they didnt even need those stupid tariffs affecting them
Financially independent does not equal ability to externally defend
they didnt need those damn anti-slavery politics
The southern states believed they would be able to externally defend with their combined might, say, a *Confederacy of states* if you will
hold up
you do realize you need an economy
for an army
I have never seen a nation able to have an army with no economy
They thought they were independent enough not to succeed and become a sovereign entity, but to form another competing group of states. That's why we saw USA vs CSA and not USA vs a dozen sovereign states
And yes, of course?
I've never said you don't need an economy for an army
The CSA thoguht they were financially independent enough
They were hoping the European powers would intervene
on their behalf
"because them southerners cotton were worth it"
Yes, that is true, they believed it would occur, however British distaste for slavery as well as technological advancements meant this never happened
Wasn't even a distaste for slavery
it was the fact that British had access to Egyptian Cotton and Indian cotton
But that's another topic
The Confederate States simply lost was because they lost the Western Front.
It was a mixture. Minor military aid for another source of cotton would have been a sound investment for the British but yea it's another topic
Because despite that the east-confederate state are financially sound
a majority of western-confederate states were not
meanwhile in the north
the western and eastern northern states were all financially sound enough to wage a war
The Confederates lost because they didn't have the industrial capacity nor manpower to replenish losses, meanwhile the USA did
which was in the west
The Confederates and Union were stalemating at the Eastern Front
but the real decisive blow was at the Western Front