Message from @Grenade123

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2018-05-09 23:39:11 UTC  

If you tear a hamstring, the scar tissue can cause you to be more likely to tear a hamstring again.

2018-05-09 23:39:27 UTC  

hamstring is not a muscle

2018-05-09 23:39:42 UTC  

it is a ligament.

2018-05-09 23:40:00 UTC  

when you lift weights, you are actually ripping up your muscles.

2018-05-09 23:40:03 UTC  

"In human anatomy, a hamstring is one of the three posterior thigh muscles in between the hip and the knee."

2018-05-09 23:40:44 UTC  

whad i miss on the live stream?

2018-05-09 23:40:49 UTC  

okay, well thats not exactly what i meant by tearing muscles

2018-05-09 23:41:00 UTC  

but if you want to play that game, sure, BREAKING your bone doesn't make it stronger

2018-05-09 23:41:15 UTC  

that would be the equivalent.

2018-05-09 23:41:28 UTC  

Semantics, guys.

2018-05-09 23:41:36 UTC  

but repeated stress applied to parts of the body, when given periods of rest, grow back stronger

2018-05-09 23:41:49 UTC  

your body reacting to a change in your every day requirements from it

2018-05-09 23:41:55 UTC  

So, anyone on a healthy diet can build muscle, correct?

2018-05-09 23:42:14 UTC  

They can lift weights

2018-05-09 23:42:16 UTC  

get swole

2018-05-09 23:42:28 UTC  

That's just an accepted fact.

2018-05-09 23:42:32 UTC  

Right?

2018-05-09 23:43:05 UTC  

I'm actually asking if that's more or less your point.

2018-05-09 23:43:54 UTC  

Lacking an answer, I'll continue.

2018-05-09 23:44:24 UTC  

i'm fucking eating cunt

2018-05-09 23:44:27 UTC  

give me a minute

2018-05-09 23:44:29 UTC  

jesus

2018-05-09 23:44:55 UTC  

any normal person, yes. not technically everyone. i'm, not count anomalies

2018-05-09 23:47:01 UTC  

So, two people on the same workout should be able to, say, lose weight, or build muscle at the same rate?

2018-05-09 23:47:58 UTC  

roughly the same weight, same age range, same food intake, similar living environments, same sex

2018-05-09 23:47:59 UTC  

yes

2018-05-09 23:48:41 UTC  

that's not a war face

2018-05-09 23:51:19 UTC  

"Genetic factors influence the rate and quantity of muscle growth for an individual throughout his or her resistance training program. According to Vladimir M. Zatsiorsky and William J. Kraemer, authors of “Science and Practice of Strength Training,” muscle growth is influenced by muscle fiber type, fat distribution, hormone levels and the quality and duration of your exercise program. Although you cannot change your genetic makeup, you can design a muscle-building routine that will be the most successful for your genetic ability to develop enhanced muscle strength and size."
https://www.livestrong.com/article/332806-is-the-ability-to-build-muscle-genetic/

Here is the list of the most important inherited traits that affects your success in bodybuilding:

Your maximum number of muscles fibers;
Your percentage of fast-twitch and slow-twitch muscle fibers;
The shape of your muscles when they’re fully developed;
Muscle insertion;
The size of your bones and joint structure;
Somatypes;
Your metabolic rate;
You can use this information on genetics to determine your own genetic potential.

http://bodybuilding-wizard.com/key-genetic-factors-for-successful-bodybuilding/

Genetics: The Cold Hard Truth
This probably isn't what you want to hear, but your progress is largely dependent on your genetics.

Recent research shows that some individuals respond very well to strength training, some barely respond, and some don't respond at all. You read that correctly. Some people don't show any noticeable results. Researchers created the term "non-responders" for these individuals.

A landmark study by Hubal used 585 male and female human subjects and showed that twelve weeks of progressive dynamic exercise resulted in a shockingly wide range of responses.

https://www.t-nation.com/training/truth-about-bodybuilding-genetics


AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH! That's a war face!

2018-05-09 23:52:06 UTC  

It looks like several people surrounding the bodybuilding scene disagree with you, Grenade.

2018-05-09 23:55:21 UTC  

So, research seems to indicate that people have variations on how quickly and how much progress they can make.

2018-05-09 23:58:15 UTC  

fine, i'll just assume all those studies took those people from birth, and made them grow up the exact same, just to see the exact inherited differences.

2018-05-09 23:59:02 UTC  

Are you going to argue that bone structure and metabolic rate are environmental?

2018-05-09 23:59:27 UTC  

You're moving towards the point of genetics meaning nothing, and they most certainly mean *something*.

2018-05-10 00:04:16 UTC  

they do mean something. i don't think we have come close to sequencing the entire genome, and cataloging all their interaction. But we know at least some of these genes appear to have an on off switches, and i'm curious how the environment, particularly while still developing, affects that.

2018-05-10 00:05:21 UTC  

Tim is basically explaining that "purge" episode of rick and morty 😛

2018-05-10 00:06:09 UTC  

I wouldn't argue against that being a factor in a genetic lineage

2018-05-10 00:06:11 UTC  

genes do much, but ingesting chemicals while young will do more.

2018-05-10 00:06:38 UTC  

so i still question research that is still more or less correlation

2018-05-10 00:06:54 UTC  

use it more as a guideline rather than the rule

2018-05-10 00:07:11 UTC  

You're asking for a branch of science that's been deemed unethical.

2018-05-10 00:07:36 UTC  

yes, i am