how so?

Well

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/us-prisoners-the-least-rehabilitated-in-the-world_b_59bd49eae4b06b71800c39d7

https://thehill.com/opinion/international/370908-we-must-do-more-to-rehabilitate-us-inmates

American prisons fail

https://www.charleskochinstitute.org/issue-areas/criminal-justice-policing-reform/why-prison-reform-matters/

They focus on punishment not rehabilitation

right thats what I said

okay why don't we fix the system in order to better people instead of killing people that could be a asset to society?

You need more money

Murderers are not assets to society

they are casted out

thats what life in prison without parole is

Nah

yes

how not?

Murderers can be valuable assets

@michael and you know this how? they can take up jobs like a electrician.

when we say murderers we are referring to 1st degree is that correct?

If given the proper rehabilitation they can become hard workers

And model citizens

these people can be a asset. you dont have to like them just let them work

But you cannot have that rehabilitation

You can though

maybe from a utopian standpoint

we do not have that power

Look at Norway

therapy?

you are arguing from a Utopia

We are not Norway

They have rehabilitative prisons

okay

@michael not exactly. im not saying no death penalty more like only to the ones who have not changed.

And they have rehabilitated murders to be model citizens

We are still not Norway

What we talking bout here

@Deleted User death

Granted you cannot do this in America cuz you guys don’t want high taxes

That does not argue against my stance

Oof how so?

@rory