Message from @Deleted User

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2019-07-25 17:23:00 UTC  

Enemy’s? it’s fucking Australia the biggest enemy You guys had were the imperial japs and fucking emu’s

2019-07-25 17:23:26 UTC  

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2019-07-25 17:23:28 UTC  

China

2019-07-25 17:23:49 UTC  

+ Any other country I don't like

2019-07-25 17:24:12 UTC  

China is fucking everyone’s enemy man, and plus if your talking about trade, trade is fucking good whether you like the country or not

2019-07-25 17:24:48 UTC  

What about selling large swaths of land to China?

2019-07-25 17:24:52 UTC  

Airports?

2019-07-25 17:24:59 UTC  

Shipping docs?

2019-07-25 17:25:04 UTC  

Mines?

2019-07-25 17:25:27 UTC  

Please tell me how not looking after national assets help make the country better.

2019-07-25 17:25:40 UTC  

I forgot how that works again

2019-07-25 17:25:49 UTC  

With the free trade and all

2019-07-25 17:27:04 UTC  

I don’t know much about Australia but I do know a fascist government never works for the benefit of the people

2019-07-25 17:28:17 UTC  

It is to suppress the people and help the elite, like Hitler, like Mussolini

2019-07-25 17:29:15 UTC  

A harsh government is not suppression, it's fair

2019-07-25 17:30:07 UTC  

”harsh” isn’t fair,

Taking away the freedom of speech, freedom of expression, and freedom of the press, is not fair

2019-07-25 17:30:31 UTC  

And usually when governments take away freedom of the press, it isn’t true news, take Pravda for example

2019-07-25 17:31:03 UTC  

We don't have free speech here

2019-07-25 17:31:28 UTC  

You can go to prison for blasphemy

2019-07-25 17:32:20 UTC  

Anyway, some basic free speech is a good thing

2019-07-25 17:32:47 UTC  

Then change it, but taking more rights away, is not the fucking answer to a government, it only ends in badly

2019-07-25 17:33:10 UTC  

And People will start to hate the country

2019-07-25 17:33:23 UTC  

And like the romans it will fall

2019-07-25 17:36:11 UTC  

I don't see how having harsh laws and higher standards of morality in the police force will suppress respectable members of society and make the nation an unpleasant place to live in

2019-07-25 17:36:25 UTC  

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2019-07-25 17:38:58 UTC  

You have explained to me how you don't like authoritarians in general, but you can't protect national interest or the interests of your countrymen without some level of power and authority in society

2019-07-25 17:40:14 UTC  

Laws work because there is a threat of violence or consiquence behind breaking them. Backed up by the police and government

2019-07-25 17:41:55 UTC  

If the laws have been soften to protect the interests of pedophiles, criminals and other unjust elements of society then shouldn't they be made/efforced to do their job??

2019-07-25 17:43:27 UTC  

This is not suppression, police should be nice to the nice people and nasty to the nasty ones.

2019-07-25 17:56:59 UTC  

@Deleted User Yeah. I don't agree with freedom since it pushes conflict of ideas and gets nothing done. It just slows down progress. Maybe abused their power to get something done, but not in the case of corruption.

2019-07-25 17:57:50 UTC  

@Deleted User This can sometimes be true (see Deng Xiaoping and Lee Kuan Yew) but it has a very real possibility of going rogue and killing all the progress (see Mao Zedong and Joseph Stalin).

2019-07-25 17:58:02 UTC  

I'd rather progress slowly but not have all my progress destroyed bc of one idiot

2019-07-25 17:59:24 UTC  

I wouldn't say Stalin and Mao were fascists, it's just that they behaved like fascists. Though you'd be correct in saying that Saddam Hussein, Adolf Hitler and Joseph Stalin were authoritarian dictators.

2019-07-25 18:00:06 UTC  

I don't know Mao's ideas though, I just know he murdered around 20 million people right?

2019-07-25 18:00:27 UTC  

Because I doubt those who are nationalists would be wanting to destroy their nation.

2019-07-25 18:00:41 UTC  

70 million actually

2019-07-25 18:00:45 UTC  

Deadliest tyrant in history

2019-07-25 18:01:26 UTC  

And Mao didn't want to destroy his people. He wanted industrialization but having farmers make metals in their backyard might seem ridiculous today but Mao thought it could work

2019-07-25 18:06:06 UTC  

Holy shit.

2019-07-25 18:11:02 UTC  

@Deleted User they were communists not facists

2019-07-25 18:11:54 UTC  

Yeah. But they behaved like fascists, such as going against freedom of speech and such. Fascists and communists like Stalin and Mao are authoritarian.