Message from @JaskaElide

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2019-08-05 02:25:05 UTC  

there is no perfect utopia

2019-08-05 02:25:12 UTC  

i consider the phrase to imply that controls on governments are necessary

2019-08-05 02:25:15 UTC  

we will never have an angel to make an absolute monarch of

2019-08-05 02:25:18 UTC  

which is not an untrue statement

2019-08-05 02:25:29 UTC  

all utopian ideals are idiocy, or a smokescreen for people who are playing the game of power

2019-08-05 02:25:40 UTC  

that said, there would be controls of governments in one way or another in the vast majority of cases

2019-08-05 02:25:40 UTC  

no?

2019-08-05 02:25:49 UTC  

Oh my god

2019-08-05 02:26:02 UTC  

utopia doesn't necessarily relate to the idea of perfect government

2019-08-05 02:26:21 UTC  

look at what utopia translates to, or the actual book "utopia"

2019-08-05 02:26:22 UTC  

a utopian quality is a perfect or near perfect state of affairs in any given sphere

2019-08-05 02:26:27 UTC  

it was a thought experiment

2019-08-05 02:26:55 UTC  

the origins of utopia may differ

2019-08-05 02:27:02 UTC  

but that does not change how utopia is colloquially used

2019-08-05 02:27:49 UTC  

just because you believe the system of government can never be perfected doesn't mean all utopian ideas are dumb

2019-08-05 02:28:02 UTC  

Yes

2019-08-05 02:28:09 UTC  

and also

2019-08-05 02:28:16 UTC  

anyone who speaks of such things in my view is masking something

2019-08-05 02:28:24 UTC  

Utopias are dumb

2019-08-05 02:28:29 UTC  

Hi

2019-08-05 02:28:31 UTC  

perfect merely relates to the maximum potential of good in relation to a subject

2019-08-05 02:28:44 UTC  

so technically speaking anything can be utopian

2019-08-05 02:29:10 UTC  

are you referring to something like the Forms?

2019-08-05 02:29:17 UTC  

if you consider utopia to mean perfect and not flawless that is

2019-08-05 02:29:27 UTC  

the government is corrupted.

2019-08-05 02:29:28 UTC  

periodt.

2019-08-05 02:29:33 UTC  

Define utopia dude

2019-08-05 02:29:42 UTC  

utopia means a perfect worls js.

2019-08-05 02:29:43 UTC  

world.

2019-08-05 02:29:49 UTC  

utopia - where i stick my dick in your mum's mouth

2019-08-05 02:29:52 UTC  

Define perfect

2019-08-05 02:29:54 UTC  

like

2019-08-05 02:29:58 UTC  

perfect is diff for everyone

2019-08-05 02:30:01 UTC  

that's a little philisophical for me stili

2019-08-05 02:30:10 UTC  

everyone has their own utopia

2019-08-05 02:30:11 UTC  

Perfect means without flaws

2019-08-05 02:30:11 UTC  

yall

2019-08-05 02:30:13 UTC  

I'm not entirely sure if I'm interpreting that correctly

2019-08-05 02:30:14 UTC  

no

2019-08-05 02:30:18 UTC  

there is objective perfection

2019-08-05 02:30:23 UTC  

humans are imperfect by nature