Message from @Tool

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2019-08-07 23:09:15 UTC  

Really?

2019-08-07 23:09:39 UTC  

Black book of communism.

2019-08-07 23:10:07 UTC  

@Dr.Cosby Why you make excuses for a mass-murdering Ideology?

2019-08-07 23:10:08 UTC  

And Stalin was a dictator so that statement doesn't make sense

2019-08-07 23:11:01 UTC  

There's nothing about communism that explicitly ties it to the abuse of power by a single dictator

2019-08-07 23:11:30 UTC  

You even mentioned Stalin before

2019-08-07 23:11:33 UTC  

Yes?

2019-08-07 23:11:37 UTC  

It just tends to go that way I guess

2019-08-07 23:11:42 UTC  

Because you said communism has killed people

2019-08-07 23:12:01 UTC  

Ignoring that it's the dictatorial and authoritative aspects that were likely responsible

2019-08-07 23:12:17 UTC  

And ignoring pre-communist history full of warmongering dictators lol

2019-08-07 23:12:46 UTC  

Dictatorships are more effective than democracy.

2019-08-07 23:12:55 UTC  

I'm not arguing for communism here. But I'm arguing that fascism is on a different plane of stupid.

2019-08-07 23:13:00 UTC  

Again I'll make the case of Rwanda.

2019-08-07 23:13:05 UTC  

@Dr.Cosby Oh so your saying the exact same thing as the commies say, that since True Communism was never tried that it hasn't killed people - but the pursuit of trying to implement it killed 20% of Russia's native populus and made Russia a shitty place to live in because communist blocks are terribly ineffective,

2019-08-07 23:13:24 UTC  

I still don't understand how fascism is stupid, if I don't believe in freedom and concentrate on improvement.

2019-08-07 23:13:29 UTC  

Yeah I know communism is a religion, i got told this by them before.

2019-08-07 23:13:35 UTC  

Every country you see today has been founded on blood

2019-08-07 23:13:59 UTC  

In history**

2019-08-07 23:14:01 UTC  

Ftfy

2019-08-07 23:14:18 UTC  

@Deleted User yep but communism most of all, in places like China were the death count from Mao is so high that we don't know how many of his people were murdered by it.

2019-08-07 23:14:33 UTC  

Thankfully we live in the least violent time in human history

2019-08-07 23:14:36 UTC  

Somehow

2019-08-07 23:14:38 UTC  

thankfully

2019-08-07 23:14:50 UTC  

I wish I wasn't born in this era

2019-08-07 23:14:55 UTC  

But in like 2040

2019-08-07 23:14:59 UTC  

The actual ideologies behind communism do not pose the hideous moral shortcomings that go along with fascism.

2019-08-07 23:15:06 UTC  

Just to see how it'd be

2019-08-07 23:15:06 UTC  

Comparing the two is daft.

2019-08-07 23:15:19 UTC  

Fascism also had an actual ideology

2019-08-07 23:15:22 UTC  

Giovanni Gentile

2019-08-07 23:15:27 UTC  

2040 will be weird. Large swathes of people won't have a job

2019-08-07 23:15:42 UTC  

There's nothing they will be able to do

2019-08-07 23:15:43 UTC  

The philosphical sense of it was much different from how it was practiced

2019-08-07 23:16:08 UTC  

@Dr.Cosby Yeah okay, I don't agree, because both facism and communism have roots in socialism & both are inspired by Marx's works

2019-08-07 23:16:34 UTC  

plus communism came first so there's that

2019-08-07 23:17:15 UTC  

Im sire all sorts of nice things were inspired or influenced by not so nice things though

2019-08-07 23:17:25 UTC  

The real question is, how much did they retain

2019-08-07 23:17:26 UTC  
2019-08-07 23:17:41 UTC  

Mussolini was a socialist