Message from @Tool

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2019-08-07 23:14:50 UTC  

I wish I wasn't born in this era

2019-08-07 23:14:55 UTC  

But in like 2040

2019-08-07 23:14:59 UTC  

The actual ideologies behind communism do not pose the hideous moral shortcomings that go along with fascism.

2019-08-07 23:15:06 UTC  

Just to see how it'd be

2019-08-07 23:15:06 UTC  

Comparing the two is daft.

2019-08-07 23:15:19 UTC  

Fascism also had an actual ideology

2019-08-07 23:15:22 UTC  

Giovanni Gentile

2019-08-07 23:15:27 UTC  

2040 will be weird. Large swathes of people won't have a job

2019-08-07 23:15:42 UTC  

There's nothing they will be able to do

2019-08-07 23:15:43 UTC  

The philosphical sense of it was much different from how it was practiced

2019-08-07 23:16:08 UTC  

@Dr.Cosby Yeah okay, I don't agree, because both facism and communism have roots in socialism & both are inspired by Marx's works

2019-08-07 23:16:34 UTC  

plus communism came first so there's that

2019-08-07 23:17:15 UTC  

Im sire all sorts of nice things were inspired or influenced by not so nice things though

2019-08-07 23:17:25 UTC  

The real question is, how much did they retain

2019-08-07 23:17:26 UTC  
2019-08-07 23:17:41 UTC  

Mussolini was a socialist

2019-08-07 23:17:46 UTC  

Stop going off wikipedia it was Giovanni Gentile who originated it.

2019-08-07 23:17:54 UTC  

@Tool He was a socialist in his early life.

2019-08-07 23:17:57 UTC  

"Opposed to liberalism, Marxism, and anarchism, fascism is placed on the far-right within the traditional left–right spectrum."

2019-08-07 23:18:07 UTC  

Political fascism is

2019-08-07 23:18:10 UTC  

I know that's what i meant throttles

2019-08-07 23:18:10 UTC  

Opposed to "Marxism", not "inspired" by it

2019-08-07 23:18:12 UTC  

Yeah Dr.Cosby wants to make excuses for communism lol

2019-08-07 23:18:26 UTC  

like all the other commies do

2019-08-07 23:18:51 UTC  

Lol do you have arguments against communism besides pointing at authoritarian dictatorships that implemented a loose version that failed?

2019-08-07 23:18:52 UTC  

Interesting

2019-08-07 23:18:55 UTC  

Tell us more

2019-08-07 23:18:58 UTC  

they think it's a successful ideology, but it doesn't wash away all the blood around it.

2019-08-07 23:18:58 UTC  

Can you even make the point that these comminist nations improved?

2019-08-07 23:20:28 UTC  

Sort of

2019-08-07 23:20:37 UTC  

Russia became a superpower

2019-08-07 23:20:45 UTC  

**AT GREAT COST**

2019-08-07 23:21:06 UTC  

What's considered an improvement depends on your criteria

2019-08-07 23:21:13 UTC  

If it's quality of life not really

2019-08-07 23:21:30 UTC  

If it's murder rate fuck no

2019-08-07 23:21:36 UTC  

If it's global power yes

2019-08-07 23:21:36 UTC  

@GoldenGail3 You're very anti-communist, I have seen this. You may note that I don't have the communist tag for a reason - I think democratic socialism is a better system overall. Most people who consider themselves communists are braindead (especially on this server) - I understand your kneejerk reaction due to that as well.

2019-08-07 23:21:37 UTC  

@Dr.Cosby Why do you even defend communism whilst arguing against facism? Do you not understand how fucking insane that is?

2019-08-07 23:22:15 UTC  

Okay, so, another reminder that communism =/= fascism

2019-08-07 23:22:39 UTC  

We were discussing fascism and you came to shit on me and try to equate the two

2019-08-07 23:22:39 UTC  

@Dr.Cosby Okay I understand your point and it's reasonable enough