Message from @zutt

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2018-05-31 16:41:38 UTC  

As i said he thinks for himself

2018-05-31 16:41:38 UTC  

Also

2018-05-31 16:41:46 UTC  

Thats very valuable

2018-05-31 16:41:56 UTC  

Most ppl just parrot others

2018-05-31 16:41:59 UTC  

he linked her video "Dear Celebrities: No One Cares What you Think" and said what happened to this?

2018-05-31 16:42:11 UTC  

which imo is a valid point

2018-05-31 16:42:23 UTC  

and her response? "Don't talk down to me!"

2018-05-31 16:42:26 UTC  

like wut

2018-05-31 16:42:32 UTC  

that being said, you dont need to be an expert to know that our prison system is fucked, so I agree with her

2018-05-31 16:43:03 UTC  

Lauren Southern got it right though:

2018-05-31 16:43:05 UTC  

"I like what you are doing, but i agree with your previous argument more"
"Don't talk down to me!"

2018-05-31 16:43:08 UTC  

Middle ground:

No we shouldn't care what celebrities think.

But... many people learn their politics from culture. A celebrity in a MAGA hat influences the culture far more than 1000 opeds.

Reality and Ideal are two different things unfortunately.

2018-05-31 16:43:10 UTC  

like, projection much?

2018-05-31 16:43:13 UTC  

YUP

2018-05-31 16:43:37 UTC  

Its multilayered argument

2018-05-31 16:44:26 UTC  

On one hand you can discus what level of knowledge about something you should have before issuing public comments about anything

2018-05-31 16:45:02 UTC  

You can also take the power based on your cultural reach into account

2018-05-31 16:45:21 UTC  

And on other hand everyone is free to say whatever he likes

2018-05-31 16:45:29 UTC  

HE

2018-05-31 16:45:39 UTC  

did you just mansplain and assume my gender?

2018-05-31 16:46:34 UTC  

Honestly i often feel like outright forbidding celebs talking about climate change

2018-05-31 16:46:53 UTC  

Because they know fuckall 90% of the time

2018-05-31 16:46:57 UTC  

agree

2018-05-31 16:47:19 UTC  

they know fuckall about most political subjects 90% of the time

2018-05-31 16:47:22 UTC  

this I would contend is different though, its a small ask honestly and a good one and one that can actually create change

2018-05-31 16:47:31 UTC  

this one can actually be fixed

2018-05-31 16:47:45 UTC  

climate change is one of those things that might always be misunderstood

2018-05-31 16:48:15 UTC  

More like the one issue where everyone is shilling for something different

2018-05-31 16:48:25 UTC  

climate change would require such a massive coordinated effort to stop progressing that figuring out how to get to and live on mars might be the better route

2018-05-31 16:48:43 UTC  

And btw Ben realy sucks when it comes to discussing it

2018-05-31 16:48:44 UTC  

because if you can live on mars, chances are good that no matter how the earth changes, we will live

2018-05-31 16:48:57 UTC  

Unless his position changed since i last check

2018-05-31 16:49:00 UTC  

I think the martian proved that we can 😃

2018-05-31 16:49:27 UTC  

you mean with human poo somehow being a good fertilizer when it really isn't? lmao

2018-05-31 16:49:45 UTC  

anyone find it weird that many vegans are pro choice... like they wont even eat an egg...

2018-05-31 16:49:53 UTC  

lmao

2018-05-31 16:50:00 UTC  

It is weird

2018-05-31 16:50:10 UTC  

You are right

2018-05-31 16:50:23 UTC  

they value other animals over humans, its not hard to understand

2018-05-31 16:50:30 UTC  

True

2018-05-31 16:50:42 UTC  

Ppl do this all the fucking time