Message from @Arch-Fiend

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2018-06-07 23:32:26 UTC  

Mars needs to be terraformed but the question is how.

2018-06-07 23:32:50 UTC  

i think it was elon who suggested nuking it ironically

2018-06-07 23:33:13 UTC  

wouldent work, but im gussing thats the ironic part

2018-06-07 23:34:23 UTC  

think that was to warm the planet

2018-06-07 23:34:36 UTC  

how would that help?

2018-06-07 23:35:00 UTC  

given that its about as warm as Antarctica in the winter?

2018-06-07 23:35:09 UTC  

I heard the idea was the nuke the northern ice cap to melt the it down into water, but wouldn't that make the water all radioactive and toxic.

2018-06-07 23:35:25 UTC  

during the equateral summer it gets around 60ish

2018-06-07 23:35:45 UTC  

it would also evaporate all the water

2018-06-07 23:36:13 UTC  

you need a heavier atmosphere before you go melting ice

2018-06-07 23:37:44 UTC  

alright so he was talking down to that crowd, like baby talk

2018-06-07 23:40:10 UTC  

perhaps there is enough co2 sorted in the ice caps of mars to increase its atmosphere to earth levels but thats a loooooooot of gas. and it risks boiling off all the water from the planet before the co2, co2 has a lower "melting" point than water but still fusion bombs would need to be very precise which isint a common thought about the weapon

2018-06-07 23:41:26 UTC  

i think a better idea would be to create a lithovoric high radiation low pressure tolerent bacteria that produces co2 and seed the planet with it

2018-06-07 23:42:25 UTC  

if it doesent need to be high radiation tolerent then something that can live under the surface pretty well

2018-06-07 23:42:36 UTC  

To be honest I don't know much about terraforming.

2018-06-07 23:43:09 UTC  

the reason you want a lot of co2 isint to warm the planet up by the way, though that will help. the reason is plants, you need plants

2018-06-07 23:43:30 UTC  

some say venus would actually be easier to terraform than mars

2018-06-07 23:43:57 UTC  

But if you don't have enough oxygen you can't have animals living there.

2018-06-07 23:44:11 UTC  

oxygen comes from the plants

2018-06-07 23:44:51 UTC  

co2 is also useful because you need less of it to get atmospheric dencity which is important for creating a mars that has liquid water

2018-06-07 23:45:33 UTC  

you guys are also forgetting that the existing atmosphere is already toxic

2018-06-07 23:46:03 UTC  

ALSO nomatter how much water ice is stored in the marsion poles, its not enough to sustain a great population, because ice actually takes up more space than water and when you look at mars you never think "boy theres a lot of ice there"

2018-06-07 23:46:15 UTC  

I disagree that Venus would be easier to terraform becasue the average temperature is 864 degrees Fahrenheit.

2018-06-07 23:46:17 UTC  

the martian atmosphere is co2

2018-06-07 23:46:57 UTC  

864 isint actually that hot for archeobactera that live in volcanic vents

2018-06-07 23:47:06 UTC  

@Deleted User only a minor problem

2018-06-07 23:47:16 UTC  

lmao

2018-06-07 23:47:32 UTC  

put some gain mirrors to reflect the sun, clearly

2018-06-07 23:47:44 UTC  

As I said I don't know much about terraforming.

2018-06-07 23:47:59 UTC  

actually, wonder how good a giant orbital solar array would do to help drop that tem

2018-06-07 23:48:16 UTC  

or the radiant heat just too great

2018-06-07 23:48:40 UTC  

Wouldn't Venus always be warmer than Earth becaus it is closer to the sun?

2018-06-07 23:49:34 UTC  

you would need something the size of a small moon thats in constant tide lock between the sun and venus. though i supose the power it would generate could sustain ion thrusters in order to control its own position, the problem is that youd be talking about the most expensive building project in human history by a factor of 1000

2018-06-07 23:50:29 UTC  

better to just create a bioengineered lifeform to float around in venus's atmosphere and convert the sulfer into salt as its method of resporation

2018-06-07 23:50:54 UTC  

wait salt is sodium

2018-06-07 23:51:15 UTC  

idk it create some kind of rock from the sulfer atmosphere

2018-06-07 23:51:57 UTC  

biologic solutions wont be fast but they will be inexpensive

2018-06-07 23:52:08 UTC  

nothing is going to put new water onto either planet though

2018-06-07 23:52:28 UTC  

you need o2 and hydrogin neither one is in high supply of either

2018-06-07 23:52:57 UTC  

well maybe mars as some supply of o2, but i dont know about hydrogin