Message from @Grenade123

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2018-06-11 20:10:29 UTC  

why would they fight each other when all the power they need is in one nice place called the government?

2018-06-11 20:10:55 UTC  

one win there means a win across so much more territory that a small no nothing town

2018-06-11 20:11:12 UTC  

why buy a PMC when the government extorts money out of its citizens to pay for the police?

2018-06-11 20:11:25 UTC  

if all the power they need was in governemnt they would try to be the governemnt rather than rely on it

2018-06-11 20:11:42 UTC  

which is the case

2018-06-11 20:12:00 UTC  

they are trying to be the government, did you not notice the that a lot of tech companies like google backed NN?

2018-06-11 20:12:06 UTC  

but in our democracy we try to fight against that as a society

2018-06-11 20:12:21 UTC  

because it meant their competition, ISP companies, wouldn't be able to fight them by blocking their traffic

2018-06-11 20:12:37 UTC  

you notice a lot of companys backed ending NN too

2018-06-11 20:12:47 UTC  

its because they arnt a monolith

2018-06-11 20:13:04 UTC  

yes, they are fighting out their fights in the government, rather than the market.

2018-06-11 20:13:08 UTC  

because its cheaper

2018-06-11 20:13:22 UTC  

and that means we suffer as well as their competition

2018-06-11 20:13:37 UTC  

they fight in the market CONSTANTLY

2018-06-11 20:13:54 UTC  

yeah, and regulation means they don't HAVE to fight on that front anymore

2018-06-11 20:14:11 UTC  

regulation means they can fight with regulation

2018-06-11 20:14:15 UTC  

but thats actually slower

2018-06-11 20:14:31 UTC  

if we had no regulation we would have monoploy

2018-06-11 20:14:37 UTC  

Well, Grenade. In London the police claim they no longer have the resources to fight many crimes (like simple robbery and muggings) [maybe in part because they have all those hate social media crimes to eradicate). So now some people have had to resort to this: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5346699/First-private-police-force-caught-400-criminals.html

2018-06-11 20:14:47 UTC  

the united states has been through this shit before my nigga

2018-06-11 20:14:52 UTC  

@Arch-Fiend ISPs have regulations and are monopolies BECAUSE of that

2018-06-11 20:15:13 UTC  

they have all kinds of laws they backed in place to make it so they can basically kick anyone out of any town.

2018-06-11 20:15:17 UTC  

isp's arnt monopolys because of regulation

2018-06-11 20:15:20 UTC  

not even google could compete

2018-06-11 20:15:43 UTC  

@Arch-Fiend i have 1, maybe two choices in ISPs where i live. how is that NOT a monoploy?

2018-06-11 20:15:44 UTC  

google isint in the same market as isps

2018-06-11 20:15:50 UTC  

google fiber

2018-06-11 20:15:51 UTC  

try again

2018-06-11 20:16:03 UTC  

they are monopolys, but its not because of regulation

2018-06-11 20:16:30 UTC  

well true, its also in part because the government gave them free money to "upgrade"

2018-06-11 20:16:38 UTC  

and google backs NN

2018-06-11 20:16:48 UTC  

yet arnt part of the monopoly that NN effects

2018-06-11 20:16:53 UTC  

yeah, after they stopped expanding google fiber

2018-06-11 20:16:56 UTC  

hMmMmMm

2018-06-11 20:17:24 UTC  

also nn is not the regulation that even touches upon that

2018-06-11 20:17:47 UTC  

the regulations that do touch upon that end up being down in state or local governments.

2018-06-11 20:18:13 UTC  

what regulations is it that facilitates monopoly in your mind?

2018-06-11 20:18:13 UTC  

much like car dealerships

2018-06-11 20:18:54 UTC  

also mind you, you have to pick regulations which dont prevent existing companys from having even more power to stomp out compatition

2018-06-11 20:21:32 UTC  

@Arch-Fiend you'll have to wait for me to get home before i dig up all the state and local ordinances that do just that

2018-06-11 20:21:48 UTC  

since i don't keep them saved 24/7