Message from @Poptarts
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And that people need to be thaught of the results first.
Results could be altered to make it seems better than it originally is, or even removing the harmful side effects
That is true.
THat depends entirely on the company to be honest. which for sure will not.
no i didnt mean that... bcuz its a good thing to be rewarded by safe and effected vaccinations if they work as intended ... i didnt mean profit per se.... just the PERVERSE incentives that develop bcuz of collusion w/ the govt by force ..... it screws up the whole incentive structure
that is in their self-interest to be honest too.... in a free market with cut-throat competition
Ah forgive me, I have the libertarian slant.
all good, me too 😉 plenty of room for variety of opinions among libertarians ::high five::
We got to always assume that pharma's are always profit oriented, and do not always put the public interest to heart
Assuming the same of all companies in general.
They do not operate for the best of the public.
So all you can do is to ensure that the interest of the public and their own align enough
We do need tighter regulation from the government, which could also be in the big pharma's pocket
they cannot have public interested if they dont have to be accountable to their customer base and be held responsible for their mistakes
Which is an issue, they are too big.
Its hard to penalize them enough.
taxpayers currently have to fork over the bill for vaccine injuries .... what a real kick in the teeth!
And if you do penalize them, you reduce their ability to mae amends.
Eh better vaccine injuries than you know, treating smallpox outbreaks.
Aren't there still some people who have to live in an iron lung because of polio?
if you could sue the vax manufacturers directly, the entire system would be different and much better to meeting market and safety demands
Well the court system is not exacty great.
Thse companies have armies of lawyers behind them
but you cannot do this how the special "vaccine court" is set up..... if you can prove damage..... the manufa's dont even have to settle for damages .... they just defer to forced tax payers
its a completely different court system tho.... its like quasi-private
bcuz of special deals with the government
SO your only issue is with the financial slant. It dosent feel right to earn money from it. Would that be accurate?
Or the idea that a private healt issue is being enforced by the govt. Like obamacare
I mean, Im thinking the alternative would be paying out money to deal with outbreaks of polio or smallpox
Which would be alot more than 3.7 billion.
Its a tough question, I dont like abortion, but every baby that isnt aborted will be another that will be sucking up welfare, and that would cost taxpayers more than the abortion itself.
no, no, of course not. profits are necessary as an economic output indicator and price calculations.... also profits are like the alternator for an engine and battery.... it provides feedback of results and how to interpret and manage/allocate resources most efficiently
its just a government intervention thing
profits are good if acquired voluntarily w/o special statist privileges and legal monoplies set up by the govt, but that is just not the case as the vaccine industry stands in the US currently
Also, I need to take another break. Might be back, might not, but I got your point.
I am still undecided at best.
you need profits to know if youre operating at losses or not, etc
well all im saying is no forced vaccinations in the name of pro-consumer-choice .... pro-informed-consent
All I'll say is this: Vaccines are one of the most important inventions in human history for saving human life. But I don't like the idea of someone forcing me to put something in my body. However vaccines rely on herd-immunity, and by not taking them you are endangering everyone else. Also corporations can often be untrustworthy.
Ultimately, it is how much trust individuals are willing to put into such corporations that the stuff they produce is beneficial to them