Message from @HeimatFreiheitTradition
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OK, WANTED TO STOP IN AND SAY HIGH
NOW HAVE TO GO BE FUNCTIONAL
TOMORROW MORNING COMES FASTER THAN I LIKE
GLAD YOU ALL ARE DOING WELL
AND HOPE YOU ARE HAVING MOST EXCELLENT CHRISTMASES
okay, Festive Yule to you Brett
YOU TOO
take care Brett!
CHEERS ALL
GOOD NIGHT!
can't wait to think about our podcast! I'm developing topics right now
ooh i'm curious 😃
i know it will be priceless
Yea me and Brett talking about what we shouldn't be talking about... i'd give us 2 months before we're kicked off iTunes
you know you could spread the word to other Germans. it might be illegal for YOU to hold some of these veiws, but it's not illegal for Brett and I to talk about them
sure! will definitely do that
between you two it will be a fascinating podcast, I'm sure
good red pill basic attack
we'll get them thinking about home, homeland, my people, and what it means to me and why it should survive
btw, it's interesting that (at least in the introduction) Anderson does not consider ethno-nationalism at all, only as an abstract "imagined sovereign community"
I always saw nationalism as a more politically formalized extension of basic tribalism. For Anderson it appears to be only a recent "invention".
Have you gotten to the part where he attempts to divide nationalism into "strains" such as wetstern, eastern, imperial/colonial nationalism or religious nationalism?
not yet, I'm only at "cultural roots"
(second chapter)
I have to go back & re-read a couple of times almost for each page
well "nationalism" really goes back ot Napoloeon in the modern sense, it was a fuction of the need to get eveyone in a country behind a "total war" as von Klauswitz said in "Vom Kreig"
So the predecessor (obviated by nationalism) was competitive feudalism?
(competitive because that would preclude getting everyone in the country behind a total war)
like Germany before unification, basically
yea.
pretty much you nailed it
the thing is though, he does look at smaller societies that were fragmented such as the Holy Roman Empire, or Prussa and decides that Germany and Poland are not nations in the ethne sense of the word, and instead calls for the dissolution of those two states
though, there is an interesting question to be raised here.... if the Germans aren't a true people, then how can it be claimed that Jews, which are in diaspora across the continant, are a unique people? How can you say X group attempted to exterminate Z group if Z group wasn't a people either?
it's true! I imagine many Jews are less ethnically Jewish than you are ethnically German.
But in a way he's right - the "German" identity is more abstract and seems weaker than more local (e.g. Bundesland level) identities
as in my anectode with "can an Afghan be an X?"
true. i think we will have some great discussion on this book! so excited to see it happening
I hope we get about 10 people for the first discussion on PP. I also posted an event on GoodReads so people will know where we will be. but i didn't pos the discord link.
maybe add it to the event description?
yea, go for it. I'm getting a little tired from today's food. i overate turkey and biscuits. but it was sooo good with the gravey o it