Message from @Dan V

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2018-09-12 00:55:39 UTC  

Of course

2018-09-12 00:55:53 UTC  

But obviously the old books must be burned

2018-09-12 00:56:03 UTC  

Cant have racist literature floating around

2018-09-12 00:56:09 UTC  

Recycled. Burning releases harmful carbon dioxide.

2018-09-12 00:56:15 UTC  

De-colonize science because science can't explain why this voodoo shaman claims he can shoot lightning from his staff

2018-09-12 00:56:20 UTC  

Checkmate atheists

2018-09-12 00:57:13 UTC  

Sorry... "from *xir's* staff". Let's not be assuming anyone's gender

2018-09-12 00:58:02 UTC  

With a sufficiently post-modernist world view maybe xe can shoot lighting from xir staff.

2018-09-12 00:59:32 UTC  

If everything is socially constructed, and everyone believes that lightning is coming out of the staff, then who can say it isn't?

2018-09-12 01:00:02 UTC  

What even is lightning?

2018-09-12 01:02:14 UTC  

>avian flu
>swine flu
>monkeypox

2018-09-12 01:03:18 UTC  

This is an example of socially constructed reality.

2018-09-12 01:03:38 UTC  

For most of human history this is how we functioned in the world.

2018-09-12 01:04:36 UTC  

Stop eating monkeys

2018-09-12 01:05:13 UTC  

@Atkins how do you know that's not real? Are you a doctor/shaman?

2018-09-12 01:05:27 UTC  

I'd like to see your credentials, xir

2018-09-12 01:05:45 UTC  

Decolonize your understanding of science

2018-09-12 01:06:47 UTC  

The very beginnings of post-modernism were the attempts of the devout Christians to slow or halt the advance of modernity and rationality.

2018-09-12 01:08:14 UTC  

I don't know if that would be considered postmodernism or a form of very old religious conservatism

2018-09-12 01:08:20 UTC  

Clearly they did not anticipate what their philosophy would become.

2018-09-12 01:10:16 UTC  

The Christian revivals and shakers would be pre-modern.

2018-09-12 01:10:32 UTC  

I don't know much about philosophy so I don't know about the path this kind of reasoning took

2018-09-12 01:10:39 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/398858182455459853/489241400555208705/post-modernism-table.jpg

2018-09-12 01:11:58 UTC  

Yeah, I've seen that

2018-09-12 01:12:19 UTC  

But couldn't you argue that modernism also paved the way for post-modernism?

2018-09-12 01:13:37 UTC  

Yes, post-modernism is a direct response to modernism and its failings. Modernism cannot answer the hard problem of consciousness, and cannot answer questions about how you should live your life.

2018-09-12 01:15:08 UTC  

If we're to believe JBP, ancient texts and myths give us a path to how to live our lives

2018-09-12 01:15:55 UTC  

Maybe science just hasn't cracked the problem of how to explain consciousness *yet*

2018-09-12 01:16:12 UTC  

JBP is trying to do something that needs to be done but he's out of his depth. Everyone is.

2018-09-12 01:16:41 UTC  

That makes sense

2018-09-12 01:17:10 UTC  

How can you come up with a way in which to tell everyone how to live their lives

2018-09-12 01:17:52 UTC  

There may not be one way. One thing we're beginning to discover is that human minds are not uniform in perception and cognition.

2018-09-12 01:18:32 UTC  

You probably saw Tim's recent video on 'inner voice' or seen the NPC meme that sprang from that article.

2018-09-12 01:18:40 UTC  

I did

2018-09-12 01:18:52 UTC  

I have the inner voice but I know people who don't

2018-09-12 01:19:02 UTC  

They looked at me like I was crazy lol

2018-09-12 01:19:20 UTC  

But I also tend to talk to myself out loud

2018-09-12 01:19:22 UTC  

That's not a new thing, and it's only a tiny piece of the literature on the subject, but the important thing is that people in a very literal way think differently. They perceive differently.

2018-09-12 01:20:20 UTC  

Some people may actually believe in what we label social construction.