Message from @Baron Ungern-Sternberg

Discord ID: 652781682646188045


2019-11-29 13:56:59 UTC  

1. Where did you find us? Monarchism Server

2. How old are you? (We need to know your real age to treat you as the way it fits your biological brain work). Early teens right on the very brink of 15

3. What is your nationality? (The country you live in). Australia

4. How do you think about Siege by James Mason ? Never read it

5. What is your opinion on equality? A impossible objective and one i doubt youd actually want to reach

6. What is your ideology? Is it socially conservative and economically leftist or center? (Make it Detailed)

Germanic pride: I’m proud of my Germanic heritage

Nationalist: I’m proud of Australia and my ancestral home lands

Socialistic: pro free health care, affordable university

Anti-immigration: I dont want near any immigration

Pan-Germanist: Germanic states should be united and Germany deserves its native lands back

7. What ideology/worldview do you want to learn and how long have you been with politics? Ive been in politics for about 3 years but ive only probably had the right ideas for 1 year. I want to learn more on Nationalism and European history and culture

2019-11-29 13:57:01 UTC  

8. How do you treat a liberal and a fascist, why would you treat them like that?

Liberal: I’m cautious holding my tounge on politics but ill be friendly. They can be dangerous

Fascist: Ill happily talk about politics but ill be weary unless i know it isnt a fed: fakefash is so common you have to be safe

9. What is the ideal world of yours and why? Where every people have their own nation where they on their own can thrive separately

10. What do you think about nowadays's popular culture and why? Propaganda mostly

11. What is your religion? Protestant

12. What is your opinion on marx and Marxism? He was possibly the greatest scourge on the recent times and his ideology is evil in one ideology

13. What’s your thoughts on race? Would you call yourself a civic, cultural, or ethnic nationalist? Must i answer? If i must i dont mind others if they are in there own country

14. What’s your opinion on imperialism? I wouldnt exist without it

15. Are you willing to work with people that are different from you ideologically? Depends i wouldnt work with a Communist but i would work with a Fascist

2019-11-29 18:36:37 UTC  

@Grifo <@500345414948618243> @GhostOfGod @The Leaf if yall wanna get in. Answer the vetting question

2019-11-29 18:50:15 UTC  

1. Where did you find us?
Invited by a member
2. How old are you? (We need to know your real age to treat you as the way it fits your biological brain work).
18
3. What is your nationality? (The country you live in).
Brazilian, but i currently reside in the United States of America
4. How do you think about Siege by James Mason ?
Haven't had the chance to read it yet
5. What is your opinion on equality?
Equality is a false concept, there is no such thing as equality and trying to achieve perfect equality is pure insanity
6. What is your ideology? Is it socially conservative and economically leftist or center? (Make it Detailed)
I am a nationalist and a conservative. I am still studying the ways of fascism and I have mostly looked at Brazilian Integralism, however the original Italian Fascism sounds pretty good as well.
7. What ideology/worldview do you want to learn and how long have you been with politics?
I want to learn more about the different ways of fascism. I have been interested with politics for around 4 years, however, the first couple of years was looking mostly at mainstream politics.

2019-11-29 18:50:21 UTC  

8. How do you treat a liberal and a fascist, why would you treat them like that?
I can tolerate an interaction with a liberal, and I will hear them and their ideas, however, if they show any disrespect to me I will try to avoid interaction, as their ideas are not that meaningful to me and are opposed to my ideals.
9. What is the ideal world of yours and why?
My ideal world would not be materialistic as nowadays, and people would value religion, family and their homeland.
10. What do you think about nowadays's popular culture and why?
I believe today's pop-culture is riddled with propagandas to influence people to become promiscuous, immoral and stupid.
11. What is your religion?
Roman Catholic
12. What is your opinion on marx and Marxism?
Marx was a lazy man who did not even live by his ideals. Marxism is one of the cancers of society and is a tool of manipulation for (((them))).
13. What’s your thoughts on race? Would you call yourself a civic, cultural, or ethnic nationalist?
Race is important and does matter, there are obvious differences in intellect and physical capacity related to race. I would call myself a cultural/ civic naitonalist since my homeland of Brazil is way to miscigented to defend an ethnic stance.
14. What’s your opinion on imperialism?
Imperialism is great.
15. Are you willing to work with people that are different from you ideologically?
Depends on the objective. I would listen to their points in an argument, but I doubt it would be very productive to work towards my goals with someone who does not believe my ideology.

2019-11-29 18:52:54 UTC  

@Grifo your good

2019-11-29 22:43:31 UTC  

1: The Leviathan, 2: 17, 3: US, 4: Haven’t read it, 5: Equality is a fake concept, 6: Socially Traditionalist/Conservative, Ultra-Nationalist. Don’t have an real economic position of as yet. 7: Fascism and other third positions themselves 8: I engage in discussions and debates where I merely hear they’re point of view, usually I will throw tidbits in that stumps them, but I treat them with respect even if they don’t to me. 8. My ideal world would be a world with many more countries than we see today, with traditionalist, nationalistic tendencies. 9: Most pop culture today is influenced and bought out by Marxists and liberal elite. 10: I would consider myself culturally Lutheran, but I’m essentially irreligious. 12: Unrealistic Utopian 13: I would consider myself a cultural and ethnic nationalist. I feel that all belong with those who are there own, heterogenous societies lead to collapse. 14: Imperialism was a way to expand societies cultural influences, but failed. 15: I would listen.

2019-11-30 03:54:31 UTC  

Its me

2019-11-30 18:13:26 UTC  

1 sora gave me an inv
2 18
3 half Swede half Irish living in the US (immigrant)
4 despite my profile I think it’s kinda shit
5 I think it’s present in nature in some places and not present in other places
6 socially conservative, authoritarian, with some form of regulated state capitalism that serves the people and national interests
7 I wanna learn more about ns even though I know a decent amount
8 id treat both with respect during an actual debate
9 break down regional unions into individual nationalistic nation states
10 kinda sucks
11 catholic
12 garbage
13 somewhere in between cultural and ethnic? Not 100% sure.
14 although bringing God to other lands was good, it was the precursor to modern globalism
15 yes

2019-11-30 18:19:04 UTC  

Okay you're good

2019-12-01 20:53:54 UTC  

1. @Arditi invited me
2. 21
3. romanian currently staying in the US for university
4. accelerationist trash
5. the only equality is that of merit to a nation/populace as a whole
6. socially conservative, economically dirigiste (promoting an active role of the state in market economics)
7. open to learning about any ideology whatsoever, been following integralist ideals for a while
8. depends on how they act, though usually i try to keep things civil
9. the establishment of nations based on cultural and relevant historical lines
10. lacks morality
11. orthodox
12. any communist ideology is inherently set for failure
13. cultural
14. foreign powers should either seek mutually beneficial cooperation or should remain out of other national affairs entirely- encroaching on foreign lands for the sake of leeching resources is wrong
15. sure

2019-12-01 20:56:04 UTC  

@vodkk what would you say your ideology is

2019-12-01 20:57:01 UTC  

a more populist style of legionarism

2019-12-01 20:57:09 UTC  

Ok

2019-12-03 05:53:14 UTC  

1. Where did you find us? Cercle proudhon
2. How old are you? (We need to know your real age to treat you as the way it fits your biological brain work).19
3. What is your nationality? (The country you live in). American
4. How do you think about Siege by James Mason ?No
5. What is your opinion on equality? Equality is only good if you deserve it
6. What is your ideology? Is it socially conservative and economically leftist or center? (Make it Detailed) Totalitarianism, Social Nationalism.
7. What ideology/worldview do you want to learn and how long have you been with politics? 2 years, I'm willing to research and Learn almost any ideology I encounter
8. How do you treat a liberal and a fascist, why would you treat them like that? Liberals and economically right fascists (hitlerites) are both Globalist and Imperialist so I treat them in a very similar manner. Economically left fascists like Peron or how Mussolini was before Hitler I can tolerate.
9. What is the ideal world of yours and why? Where everyone is United under the state and a single leader, because totalitarianism eliminates the ability for infighting to manifest
10. What do you think about nowadays's popular culture and why? I think it's degenerate trash that needs to be destroyed and replaced.
11. What is your religion? N/A
12. What is your opinion on marx and Marxism? I'm not a fan of Marx but some "Marxist" leaders I can tolerate, such as Stalin and Pol Pot
13. What’s your thoughts on race? Would you call yourself a civic, cultural, or ethnic nationalist? Racialism in America would be a major Globalist fallacy. Civic.
14. What’s your opinion on imperialism? Imperialism is a product of global capital that needs to be destroyed.
15. Are you willing to work with people that are different from you ideologically? That depends if their ideology is worth my respect. Liberals and Anarchists, I will never work with.

2019-12-04 14:50:35 UTC  

<@500345414948618243> if u wanna get in answer the vetting questions

2019-12-05 01:46:06 UTC  

1. Where did you find us?
Deutsche Kaiserreich

2. How old are you? (We need to know your real age to treat you as the way it fits your biological brain work).
Would like to keep that private

3. What is your nationality? (The country you live in).
American, and proud of it

4. How do you think about Siege by James Mason?
Well the only thing I know is that's a meme, not aware of it in any other way.

5. What is your opinion on equality?
I do believe that some people are better than others, but I don't believe that that means we should treat others like shit.

6. What is your ideology? Is it socially conservative and economically leftist or center? (Make it Detailed)
I am a Monarchist and related to a household of nobles, some of which were founding fathers of our country. Economically I'm left-wing, and culturally I am very conservative and would like to see laws enforced to keep our culture pure. (Don't want it to be exterminating other races or something like that though)

7. What ideology/worldview do you want to learn and how long have you been with politics?
I would like to see people of all ideologies here. With politics, I was introduced to Communism a couple years ago, but became Monarchist after realizing that it'll take too long for the Communist utopia to be viable.

2019-12-05 01:51:17 UTC  

8. How do you treat a liberal and a fascist, why would you treat them like that?
All with basic human decency. Doesn't matter their ideology.

9. What is the ideal world of yours and why?
Monarchist world united through either a religion or some sort of Holy Roman Empire.

10. What do you think about nowadays's popular culture and why?
It's shit, they took what is actual culture and turned it to shit

11. What is your religion?
Spiritual Atheist, don't believe in a god but don't believe that a god's the end of it.

12. What is your opinion on marx and Marxism?
Used to be marxist, feel sorry for the ideology as it's now just followed by idiots like AOC or other people like that.

13. What’s your thoughts on race? Would you call yourself a civic, cultural, or ethnic nationalist?
Who the fuck cares? As long as you have the same culture, you're good. I consider myself a cultural nationalist.

14. What’s your opinion on imperialism?
Good, it adds to the glories of nations.

15. Are you willing to work with people that are different from you ideologically?
Of course.

2019-12-05 01:53:59 UTC  
2019-12-05 01:55:15 UTC  

Alright you're good

2019-12-07 08:01:21 UTC  

Please see my previous answers to the vetting questions- I apologize, I originaly joined and then left this server due to a suspicion that my account would be permabanned if I were in any public discord, but due to your partnership with The Leviathan I feel it's safe now

2019-12-10 19:16:21 UTC  

<@500345414948618243> <@653762961210474498> answer the vetting question if u wanna get in

2019-12-10 19:17:34 UTC  

@Dr.Clef answer vetting

2019-12-10 19:17:42 UTC  

aye

2019-12-10 19:33:24 UTC  

1.Got an invite from a guy
from Cercle Proudhon
2.22
3.Poland
4.I'm aware it's some book written by a hitlerite , but I've never
read it so no opinions on it
5.Some people are better then others , some are worse , however
I believe these diffrences are insignificant and definitely
not a justification for creation of some caste system
6.I'm a Strasserist , it's an ideology that on political compass would be
a bit left of the authoritarian center. It's centrist when it comes
to state (authoritarianism, though I incorporate communalism into my
Strasserite beliefes , therefore the far-left and far-right conceptions
of the state "level out") . It's economically far left . I'm
also a traditionalist, a bit of cultural reactionary and nationalist so that would
make me far-right on societal axis i believe

2019-12-10 19:33:28 UTC  

7.I want to learn about other anti-capitalist, nationalist ideologies like
Falangism or Natsyn for example. I've been about 3 years into politics i think
(Though I am a strasserite for like 6 months)
8.I consider liberals to be my enemy , mainly because of their support for
capitalism , liberal democracy and most othen progressive values I'm against
As for fascists ,I'm not really on friendly terms with them but I can somewhat
tolerate them. Reason being corporatism which protects private property,
extensive militarism , ultra-nationalism and sometimes extremism when it comes
to religion. The only fascism that I'm "friends" with is National Syndicalism
,Nazbol and other who reject private property
9.My ideal world is a socialist one , with different races being valued and preserved
, with cultures flourishing and without worker exploitation
10.Some is pretty degenerate , others are not so bad
11.Agnosticism and I have some slavic pagan sympathises
12.Marxism I believe is the wrong aproach to socialism ,mainly because of central planning
I'm against and because that these marxist regimes pretty much always become state capitalisms
13.I want Europeans to embrace the white , racial identity , therefore race is very important
to me. I would consider myself to be Ethnic,Cultural,Socialist and Pan-European Nationalist
14.Imperialism is the final form of capitalism that must be overcome
15.Yes , as long as they reject private property or atleast limit it quite significantly

2019-12-10 19:33:59 UTC  

done @csd 13

2019-12-10 19:36:25 UTC  

Okay you're good

2019-12-12 01:17:17 UTC  

1. Where did you find us?
Cercle Proudhon
2. How old are you? (We need to know your real age to treat you as the way it fits your biological brain work).
19
3. What is your nationality? (The country you live in).
American
4. How do you think about Siege by James Mason ?
Seen the memes, never read it, so I don't have any opinions.
5. What is your opinion on equality?
It's good if it benefits the nation.
6. What is your ideology? Is it socially conservative and economically leftist or center? (Make it Detailed)
Socially Conservative, economically leftist(government should be a strong force in the economy), overall authoritarian.
7. What ideology/worldview do you want to learn and how long have you been with politics?
About 5 years, and I'd like to learn more about other non-free market economic ideas.
8. I'd treat them with civility, but I'd have less tolerance for a liberal.

9. What is the ideal world of yours and why?
Each country and all peoples would have the right to self-determination.
10. For the most part it promotes degeneracy and social deviancy.
11. What is your religion?
Christian, Specifically Lutheran Church Missouri Synod.
12. What is your opinion on marx and Marxism?
Marxism isn't the right way to go about things. It's like, okay. Create a powerful state-and that's the end goal. None of this workers ownership stuff. If anything, nationalize the industries for the benefit of the people.
13. Race is important and could at least help understand the situation of certain groups and their outcome in differing societies.
14. What’s your opinion on imperialism?
Spreading the Word of God to others is good, but countries don't need to invade other countries.
15. Of course, as long as they are respectful.

2019-12-12 01:17:29 UTC  
2019-12-12 01:18:45 UTC  

@Shalopy alright you're good

2019-12-12 02:28:30 UTC  
2019-12-12 02:28:48 UTC  

or do i have to do the screening?

2019-12-12 02:29:31 UTC  

Yes

2019-12-12 02:29:35 UTC  

darn

2019-12-12 02:29:36 UTC  

oki

2019-12-12 02:34:25 UTC  

1. Where did you find us?
@American Fascist invited me
2. How old are you? (We need to know your real age to treat you as the way it fits your biological brain work).
21
3. What is your nationality? (The country you live in).
USA
4. How do you think about Siege by James Mason ?
havent read it but fuck it regardless
5. What is your opinion on equality?
from each according to their ability to each according to their need
6. What is your ideology? Is it socially conservative and economically leftist or center? (Make it Detailed)
Marxist-Leninist
7. What ideology/worldview do you want to learn and how long have you been with politics?
im pretty happy with marxism if im honest but its always good to learn what the other side thinks as it were, i wanna say 2-3 years?
8. How do you treat a liberal and a fascist, why would you treat them like that?
politically speaking i dont like either, tho fascists are a greater threat to the proletariat then liberals
9. What is the ideal world of yours and why?
Communism
10. What do you think about nowadays's popular culture and why?
live and let live i guess, as long as your not hurting anybody i don't really care what you do
11. What is your religion?
atheist
12. What is your opinion on marx and Marxism?
10/10
13. What’s your thoughts on race? Would you call yourself a civic, cultural, or ethnic nationalist?
its a social construct designed to divide the proletariat and keep them fighting amongst themselves instead of fighting with the bourgeoise
14. What’s your opinion on imperialism?
it it the highest form of capitalism and it must be destroyed
15. Are you willing to work with people that are different from you ideologically?
as long as they work for the proletariat in the end yes

2019-12-12 02:44:41 UTC  

<@&589977740166430744> <@&589904070719045662>

2019-12-12 02:44:46 UTC  

idk who to ping

2019-12-12 04:12:04 UTC  

1. Where did you find us?
Crasher925 linked me here
2. How old are you? 18
3. What is your nationality? German
4. How do you think about Siege by James Mason ?
If i'm supposed to answer "positively" to this you're a bunch of larpers
5. What is your opinion on equality?
Eh, depends on what sort of equality, total equality isn't a realistic or even desirable political goal and Marx knew that too (believe it or not), i dont really see any reason to treat people differently unless they've done something to deserve it (such as the anglo 😎 )
6. What is your ideology? Is it socially conservative and economically leftist or center? Neither lmao, i'm a council communist and im pretty sure none of you are economically leftist
7. What ideology/worldview do you want to learn and how long have you been with politics?
I know lots about most ideologies, been in politics since last year and through most parts of the political spectrum (including Fascism and Strasserism, although I actually read Strassers works unlike most people here)
8. How do you treat a liberal and a fascist, why would you treat them like that?
Both of you are shit because you're ultimately defenders of the economic status quo lol, it's just that one is more militant than the other
9. What is the ideal world of yours and why?
Eh, it's complicated

2019-12-12 21:57:35 UTC  

@Leviathan answer the vetting when u can