It's pretty much implied that self defense is a natural right, therefore it's understood and expected that people defend themselves. Thus if you attack someone and he kills you in self defense, in reality, you killed yourself, not him killing you.

Because his act of self defense is, or should have been a foreseeable risk

Saint Thomas Aquinas wrote about this in the context of capital punishment...if you commit a capital crime, the state is not committing murder, because you in fact have forfeit your own right to life

A sort of implied consent

Woah Christianity good af.

Saint Augustine also has considerable commentary on the differences between killing, murdering, and suicide in _The City of God_. The difference between simple killing and murder can also rest within authority and principle. For example, being a police officer and shooting someone for no reason because you happen to dislike them is murder. However, not shooting an actual criminal leading to further damage, or innocents dying, he would consider to be treason. Thus execution and war are perfectly acceptable under the pretense that it is in accordance with the law and it is for the preservation of justice.

And, as a side note, treason in Augustine's view is worthy of death penalty as well.

Love it

But war, it's a horrible horrible thing

I hate the thought of fighting against ordinary people. Germans, Japs, Chinese, Vietnamese, Koreans etc. People who in any other situation may have been our best friends. They could listen to the same music or like the same movies. Maybe they want to be Americans too.

Good people on both sides. People who just want to go home and take care of the farm, people just trying to protect their families from war

There's a movie, Letters from Iwo Jima. It's not bullshit. The scene where the Japanese officer uses the last of their medical supplies to treat an American, it's real. He was an Olympic horse jumper and actually lived in California before the war

Right before I joined the army I met a guy who had been an Iraqi soldier, had actually fired on American troops before, he loved America and absolutely hated war

It's things like that, why I really hate the left and their rhetoric about China and Russia. Those are people too and they do not want war.

We never really win a war, we just survive it, we just kill more than the other side does. There's nothing good about that.

Thanks to Trump, we won't have to see war with Russia or China.

As Pope Urban II said, "Let those who once fought against brothers and relatives now rightfully fight against barbarians."

Agreed, it is an absolutely terrible thing - sometimes violence is certainly justifiable, but more often than not it's wasteful, senseless, and directed at the wrong targets.

Ephesians 6:12

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In Battle of Castle Itter, German soldiers of the Wehrmacht fought alongside American forces against Waffen SS.

I was reading that some last night. Thanks to Sabaton - The Last Battle. Need to finish reading everything about it tonight.

@Wehraboo and one SS officer on our side as well

Look up Larry Thorne too

He isn't the only one, a surprising number of early Nam war SF were ex SS. A handful in the foreign legion fought there in the 50s too

My in-laws all joined the PLA back when they didn't get paid and it was human wave tactics, and US-China relations were their worst. Every last one of them says they want us, China, and Russia to fight together against Islam.

Vietnam was a French colony, so it makes sense

The German paratroopers song and the legion paratroopers song are both inspired by an SS marching song

Back in the day, NK soldiers who defected were allowed to continue their service in SK at the same rank, I'm pretty sure they still have this policy

Larry Thorne was the ULTIMATE COMMIE KILLER.

http://jesus-is-savior.com/Wolves/book_of_enoch.htm

@Wehraboo Thorne was a badass, the stuff of legend, worthy of articles in Soldier of Fortune. Those were great days, when men were men and fought across continents, career soldiers making history

@Victus Shmmidtt you ever read any of those? Like the Books of Adam and Eve...all kinds of really weird stuff in them

2 Adam/Eve even says there's two heavens

I haven't actually sat down and read them but I have looked up some of the main thesises of those types of books

http://www.sacred-texts.com/chr/apo/index.htm

Pretty much all of them are at this site

And a bunch of other religious texts, Buddhism etc

I like how it calls them the"Other Apocrypha"