Message from @Andrules

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2018-06-28 20:10:08 UTC  

And they didn't all fight us. A lot of them allied with us because they hated the other tribe, the enemy of my enemy is my friend

2018-06-28 20:10:31 UTC  

Exactly.

2018-06-28 20:12:27 UTC  

Wonder why they commit more crimes than any other group nowadays

2018-06-28 20:12:35 UTC  

To bring this back to religion... Those people would still be that way if not for devout Christians converting them.

2018-06-28 20:12:50 UTC  

Ever been to Saint Augustine?

2018-06-28 20:13:03 UTC  

There's a Catholic museum there, you'd like it even not being Catholic

2018-06-28 20:13:40 UTC  

Old artifacts from the first Christians here, paintings etc

2018-06-28 20:14:05 UTC  

When the Spanish first landed, the priest held mass on the beach there to thank God they made it across

2018-06-28 20:14:28 UTC  

Georgia right? I’ve never been. I think my parents have before.

2018-06-28 20:15:17 UTC  

Can't remember his name

2018-06-28 20:15:28 UTC  

But when he was having mass, the natives came out of the woods

2018-06-28 20:15:42 UTC  

And all mimicked what the congregation was doing, making sign of the cross, kneeling etc

2018-06-28 20:16:09 UTC  

So the priest actually used the Lord's Prayer to teach them an alphabet. They didn't have any system of writing before

2018-06-28 20:16:26 UTC  

He just matched Latin alphabet with the sounds of their spoken language

2018-06-28 20:16:57 UTC  

That’s awesome.

2018-06-28 20:17:39 UTC  

I knew they were taught reading/writing by the settlers. From my understanding it was mostly the clergy that did it.

2018-06-28 20:18:53 UTC  

Father Francisco López de Mendoza Grajales

2018-06-28 20:18:57 UTC  

That was his name

2018-06-28 20:24:13 UTC  

I went to it three years ago, it was pretty awesome

2018-06-28 20:24:34 UTC  

It's in Florida btw, not Georgia

2018-06-28 20:27:25 UTC  

Oh. My bad lol.

2018-06-28 20:27:37 UTC  

Gah I should know that too

2018-06-28 20:27:39 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/451601956755210241/461991089054679075/200px-Da_Qin_Pagoda.jpg

2018-06-28 20:27:48 UTC  

This is on my bucket list

2018-06-28 20:27:59 UTC  

It's usually referred to in the west as a Buddhist pagoda

2018-06-28 20:28:11 UTC  

Yeah it looks like it.

2018-06-28 20:28:15 UTC  

But it's well known in China for what it really is

2018-06-28 20:28:46 UTC  

Old catholic place?

2018-06-28 20:29:03 UTC  

It faces east. Buddhist and Taoist temples only face north or south

2018-06-28 20:29:06 UTC  

I know Christianity spread to the east.

2018-06-28 20:29:12 UTC  

Interesting.

2018-06-28 20:29:14 UTC  

Actually it's Nestorian

2018-06-28 20:29:31 UTC  

Not familiar with that term.

2018-06-28 20:29:54 UTC  

There's a painting of the nativity on the walls inside

2018-06-28 20:30:11 UTC  

I've been to two Buddhist temples. They don't have nativity scenes.

2018-06-28 20:30:24 UTC  

Yeah. Wouldn’t make sense to have one.

2018-06-28 20:31:20 UTC  

Nestorians believed that there was a distinction between the human nature and divine nature of Jesus

2018-06-28 20:32:10 UTC  

Nestorius who came up with the idea was the Patriarch of Constantinople in the 5th century

2018-06-28 20:33:00 UTC  

So it was deemed heresy, and his followers moved eastward, as far as China, and built the church in the photo in 640 AD

2018-06-28 20:33:15 UTC  

Oh that’s cool.

2018-06-28 20:34:28 UTC  

The Tang Dynasty was cool with Christianity, but later dynasties persecuted it severely