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2018-06-28 20:37:46 UTC  

Interesting. I thought I had read recent government persecution of Christian churches in China.

2018-06-28 20:37:56 UTC  

Three Self Patriotic Movement for Protestants, and Chinese Patriotic Catholic Church for us

2018-06-28 20:38:18 UTC  

The problem is that the government doesn't see any difference in church and nonchurch

2018-06-28 20:38:26 UTC  

It doesn't get a special respect or status

2018-06-28 20:38:40 UTC  

Ah

2018-06-28 20:39:20 UTC  

Officially to join the party you must be atheist. And party membership is required for any higher government position or "elected" office

2018-06-28 20:40:32 UTC  

Interesting that their society accepts God as real, but also accepts that their rulers renounce God.

2018-06-28 20:40:51 UTC  

To non-believers there, or even just people who don't practice Christianity, being Christian is something of a novelty to them. When I met my wife's family and she told them I'm Catholic, they automatically assumed I must be a good guy

2018-06-28 20:41:16 UTC  

Because in their view, every Christian follows Christian principles. Don't lie or steal etc

2018-06-28 20:41:23 UTC  

Oh

2018-06-28 20:41:27 UTC  

Interesting.

2018-06-28 20:43:15 UTC  

Their lack of church worship comes from antiquity. The early Chinese followed the exact same religion as pre-Mosaic Hebrews. This is accepted as simple historical fact to them

2018-06-28 20:43:58 UTC  

And of course Abraham didn't go to church

2018-06-28 20:45:00 UTC  

So the act of Sunday worship and going to church never became important to them, since they lacked a Bible and basically just learned about God by oral tradition

2018-06-28 20:45:35 UTC  

"God is in heaven and can see what you do, so be good, don't make him mad or your life is gonna suck" is pretty much their whole religion for centuries

2018-06-28 20:45:38 UTC  

Really? That’s neat.

2018-06-28 20:46:41 UTC  

They often call it "heaven worship" and for them there's a very blurry distinction between God and Heaven

2018-06-28 20:46:48 UTC  

So would they have gotten their “Hebrew” traditions from like the Tower of Babel split?

2018-06-28 20:47:06 UTC  

In fact their word for God is just "Lord of heaven"

2018-06-28 20:50:09 UTC  

Yeah basically

2018-06-28 20:50:50 UTC  

I suppose the first of them may have realized "this tower was a bad idea, I should probably go worship God now and not be an idiot"

2018-06-28 20:51:48 UTC  

Yeah lol

2018-06-28 20:52:16 UTC  

As far as secular knowledge goes, is there an explanation for that?

2018-06-28 20:53:06 UTC  

I know from human migration patterns, everyone migrated from around Turkey and moved to everywhere in the eastern hemisphere.

2018-06-28 20:55:04 UTC  

One branch to Europe, one to Africa, and one to the Far East.

2018-06-28 20:55:30 UTC  

They even performed the same sacrifice as the ancient Hebrews until 1911

2018-06-28 20:55:55 UTC  

Wow. So sacrificing sheep and stuff?

2018-06-28 21:08:31 UTC  

Yep

2018-06-28 21:08:36 UTC  

It's called the border sacrifice

2018-06-28 21:09:01 UTC  

It's done at a huge temple in Beijing. Which is not at the border

2018-06-28 21:09:21 UTC  

So what could it be referring to? The border between heaven and earth maybe

2018-06-28 21:10:04 UTC  

上帝

2018-06-28 21:10:10 UTC  

Shang di

2018-06-28 21:10:29 UTC  

Sounds pretty close to El shaddai

2018-06-28 21:11:12 UTC  

God chose the Jews instead, I think not because they were better, but because they were worse. They needed more help

2018-06-28 21:12:23 UTC  

Notice how in the Bible they are always screwing up and descending into polytheism

2018-06-28 21:12:28 UTC  

That is neat.

2018-06-28 21:12:34 UTC  

Well yeah lol

2018-06-28 21:12:35 UTC  

Just when you think they got their act together, they do it again

2018-06-28 21:12:42 UTC  

Goober bunch of Jews lol

2018-06-28 21:13:06 UTC  

But they still were the like the only ones that seemed to really follow the directions anyways.